On Sunday 06 March 2016 09:15:31 Lisi Reisz wrote: > On Sunday 06 March 2016 13:58:51 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 06 March 2016 08:36:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > > And I am still dead here, > > > > > > I have installed all the xawtv stuff only to find that no ATSC > > > functionaliy has been added. It can get the 1 signal from a 10 > > > watt translator about 20 miles away that is still broadcasting in > > > NTSC format, but at that distance and wattage, the signal to noise > > > is about 1/1 when conditions are good, perhaps 5% of the time. > > > > > > I have installed all the dvb_apps and friends, but while it finds > > > the "Oren OR51132 VSB/QAM Frontend" doesnt support TERRCABLE_ATSC > > > apparently not finding the atsc list for std terrestrial > > > broadcasting in the US, so until I can find a configurator to tell > > > it different, thats out. > > > > > > That leaves kaffeine, whose scanner scans about 3 or 4 channels a > > > second, not giving this card adequate time to lock to the signal > > > so it registers. > > > > > > the KDE version of kaffeine did in fact work well with this card > > > an iteration or 2 back up the log, not too long before I installed > > > TDE in fact. However, I can find no means to slow its at least 10x > > > too fast channel scan that it does now. And the site it got > > > program listngs from seems to be defunct too. > > > > > > Is there not another application yet that will play ATSC > > > broadcasts? > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > From a gentoo forum message, its both a module loading order > > problem, and a missing module problem. It seems one must unload > > cx88-dvb, at which point kaffeine loses its DVB button, and load > > cx88-atsc. But that module does not exist on my system, and the > > synaptics search function is coming up empty. > > https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=cx88-atsc&searchon=names&s >uite=all§ion=all > > :-( > > Lisi > yes, turns out its part of one of the two toolkits named in the gentoo forums, only one of which, the earlier one now exists in wget-able form you can dl from their site. Unfortunately, the Makefile and dependencies all appear to be 2.6.12 dependent, so a make bails out about 10 lines into the makefile, squawking about missing this and missing that. All of this crap including the forum contents of their pchdtv web site, comes essentially to an end sometime in 2007! So the info is very badly out of date. Messages to tech support, first one in 7 or 8 years, about 2 weeks ago, have not bounced, but have not been graced with a reply either. So, I guess the next question IS: what cards are folks using to watch hidef tv on their uptodate kerneled linux computers, and which both works well and has good support from the vendor? To me its apparent pcHDTV, which I thought was king of the hill, no longer cares. Linux marches on, but their drivers and Makefiles have not and other than the free standing tools, which I have used to tell me the card still works, but the applications that formerly used to work well with it, like kaffeine, no longer work. So I need a new card, must be PCI, no PCI-e on this old Asus motherboard. From googling, the only PCI is the pcHDTV-5500. USB is out as this motherboard only has USB2.0, not fast enough. And I am not contemplating building a new machine that does have PCI-e and USB-3 interfaces. Thanks. Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>