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Re: [trinity-users] Hopeing I can find a regex expert here

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2016 10:03:50 -0400
On Wednesday 23 March 2016 09:35:31 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Wednesday 23 March 2016 07:22:03 E. Liddell wrote:
> > On Wed, 23 Mar 2016 15:58:39 +0900
> >
> > Michele Calgaro <michele.calgaro@...> wrote:
> > > On 2016/03/23 02:19 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Wednesday 23 March 2016 00:32:17 Michele Calgaro wrote:
> > > >> On 2016/03/23 12:44 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > >>> Greetings;
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I use mailfilter as a prefilter in front of fetchmail to nuke
> > > >>> some spam while its still on the server.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> But its missing hits on what I suspect is the From: or
> > > >>> Return-Path: strings that have quotation marks in the string
> > > >>> because the string is being spec'd by being surrounded by
> > > >>> "show this name" bs.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I've added the character < as part of the string its to search
> > > >>> for, so the search string now looks like
> > > >>> "From:.*<*\.unwanted-tld".  Does this stand that famous snow
> > > >>> balls chance in hell of working well with or without a quoted
> > > >>> "some funkity name" in front of the real url with the <>
> > > >>> around it?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I just love the lack of documentation on how this string
> > > >>> comparison stuff works as shown by the man pages for grep and
> > > >>> regex.  All sorts of control options are well covered, but
> > > >>> figureing out how to write a search expression must be one of
> > > >>> the worlds better guarded secrets.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> So if someone could show me, or give a url that actually has
> > > >>> the full docs, I'd be greatfull.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Thanks.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi Gene,
> > > >> "From:.*<*\.unwanted-tld" will match a string like this (I have
> > > >> put one section per line to be cleaer): From:
> > > >> whatever character
> > > >> 0 or more <
> > > >> .unwanted-tld
> > > >
> > > > I thought I wanted 1 only, but the way these lowlifes change
> > > > addresses and names hourly, they may remove the <> surrounding
> > > > the real source address and screw me up.  But the fact that they
> > > > often put dbl-qoutes around the throwaway part of the url, is I
> > > > think screwing me regardless.
> > > >
> > > > What we need is the ability to specify the quote character by
> > > > the first non-space character after the DENY =, which is
> > > > currently a "^ or a <> which apparently inverts the logic.  So a
> > > > typical line would be
> > > >
> > > > DENY = "^From:.*<*\.bid"
> > > >
> > > > Substitute any of the new tld's for bid that gets obnoxious. 
> > > > Like xyz, or .pro, heck that new list is several dozen tld's.
> > > >
> > > > But AFAIK, we're stuck with the dblquote wrapper around the
> > > > string to match.  Grrrr.
> > > >
> > > >> It is greedy, so it will scan until the last < if there are
> > > >> more than one. Not sure if this is what you need or not. If you
> > > >> can post an example of what you need to match, I can workout
> > > >> another regex if required.
> > > >
> > > > Try this:
> > > >
> > > > "-Bed Bugs-" <-BedBugs-@...>
> > > >
> > > > with Return-Path.* or From.* in front of it.  Or does that -
> > > > sign, 4 of them, need escaping with a \ ? IDK.
> >
> > Hyphens should only need an escape if within a character class,
> > denoted by square brackets.
> >
> > > > I converted about 3 lines of the filterdata file that way, and
> > > > I'm now waiting for the next blast of spam to serve as test
> > > > data. mailfilter is a picky twit, but that hasn't given it a
> > > > tummy ache either, so I am hopefull.
> > > >
> > > >> PS: by the way, the internet is full of excellent documentation
> > > >> about regex ;-) For example
> > > >> "http://www.regular-expressions.info/"
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > Hi Gene,
> > > so if I understand correctly, you already had a set of rules like
> > > DENY = "^From:.*\.bid"  (bid stands for any tld of yuor choice)
> > > but it was missing some entries because of the "..." entry before
> > > the domain. So you put the < in the string as well.
> > > Right?
> > >
> > > Assuming so, it surprises me that the original version missed some
> > > entries, since the additional "..." field would have already been
> > > matched by the .* part of the pattern.
> > > I think there is a different reason for missing entries. Perhaps a
> > > black character before "From:"? Could it be? You could try this
> > > other version:
> > > DENY = "^\s*From:.*\.bid"  which ignores any separator before
> > > From:
> >
> > That would also sweep up, say, fred@..., or
> > "I.bid" <ibid@...>
> >
> > > or
> > > DENY = "^\s*From:.*\.bid>" which also makes explicit that the tld
> > > is followed by a >.
> >
> > I'd cover the example as
> >
> > ^\W*((From:)|(Return-Path:)).*\.bid\W*$

I put this one in dblquotes & will check on the next run, about a minute.  
no msgs to test it.  The log was also showing that it was exiting, could 
not compile regular expression reported.  For about the last hour.

Ah, next run, it bought the above sample with no complaints, processing 
and passing 2 msgs.

Thats great as I can remove about 1/2 of the rules by combining them so.

Thank you Michelle.

> > which works out to zero or more non-word characters  at the
> > beginning of the string, followed by "From:" or "Return-Path:"
> > followed by zero or more unknowns, followed by ".bid", followed by
> > zero or more non-word characters, followed by the end of the string.
> >  "Word" characters are alphanumerics, some connectors like _-, and
> > possibly some non-ASCII depending on the implementation, so
> > "non-word" covers stuff like punctuation and whitespace.  Marking
> > the end of the string makes it more likely you're getting the TLD
> > and not some random bit in the middle that was designed as a parser
> > torture-test.
> >
> > If you want to get really silly,
> >
> > ^\W*((From:)|(Return-Path:)).*\.[^cCoOnN][a-zA-Z][a-zA-Z]+\W*$
> >
> > ought to catch the majority of TLDs with a 3+ ASCII character
> > extension that isn't .com, .org, or .net, but without a larger
> > sample of "good" and "bad" addresses, I can't guarantee no false
> > positives.
> >
> > I write a lot of regexes in my day job (which is not to say that I
> > get them right the first time, every time!)  Assuming a
> > Perl-compatible implementation (which most of them are, more or
> > less), "man perlre" is a decent reference for the complicated bits. 
> > Just scroll past the section on modifiers.
> >
> > E. Liddell
>
> Now that looks like the regex bible, Thanks a bunch.  That needs
> printed and placed in the middle of the house little room. :)
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> Cheers, Gene Heskett


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