On Saturday 06 August 2016 11.34:57 Felix Miata wrote: > Are you starting sessions via TDM or some other DM, or startx? As far as I know via TDM. I start in graphical mode and tdm is the DisplayManager in Sysconfig. > > Are the permissions you refer to those of /usr/bin/Xorg? > > Updating openSUSE frequently resets permissions on /usr/bin/Xorg to 755 > when I've set them to 4711. I've set them to 4711 but no change > IceWM was happening to me a lot until I figured out that > /etc/sysconfig/windowmanager needed tde rather than starttde for > DEFAULT_WM. Without that set, the start syntax without a greeter running in > openSUSE, unlike in Fedora or Debian, is either: > > WINDOWMANAGER=starttde startx > > or > > WINDOWMANAGER=/opt/trinity/bin/starttde startx This brought interresting elements: The current situation is: - I get to the TDM login screen - I log in, checking that "tde" is the choosen session type - I'm dropped to an X looking screen, with a sort of terminal window in the upper left corner, that also acts as such if my mouse is inside. From there, startx starts IceVM If I try /opt/trinity/bin/starttde startx I get: a) in the terminal [starttde] Setting TDEROOTHOME to /root/.trinity. [r14-xdg-update] Performing a profile update for Trinity release R14 XDG compliance. [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] To run this script against a different user directory, or automated [r14-xdg-update] from within another script, pass the directory path as a parameter. [r14-xdg-update] For example: r14-xdg-update /home/user_dir [r14-xdg-update] Use the user home directory and not the profile directory. [r14-xdg-update] User directory: /home/haswell [r14-xdg-update] Profile directory: /home/haswell/.trinity [r14-xdg-update] [r14-xdg-update] The r14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. [r14-xdg-update] The error code is 3;6. b) in a message box: The r14-xdg-update script has been run at least once. The script is not successfully updating The script will run with each login until corrected Please contact an administrator (...) The error code is 3;6. So it seems (to me) that there is a problem in the update script for the openSUSE install. If I have time I will try installing from scratch, but I wonder if going from 14.0.0 to 14.0.3 is worth reconfiguring everything... Anyway, thanks Felix for those hints. Have a good day, Thierry