>>> "deloptes" == deloptes <deloptes@...> writes: > Uwe Brauer wrote: >> - when I tried to connect to the wifi I just configured with KDE4 I >> see > what is this KDE4 - use the trinity network manager please. I mostly described what I do not clearly enough. - my disk is empty. - I install Kubuntu 14.04 which ships KDE4 - I need an internet connection to download and install trinity. - I add the relevant source.list file entries and install - I try to use the tdenetworkmanager and run into the problem reported. In the past I always used this path successfully, just now it seems to fail. I could use wicd as an alternatative, but I am really puzzled by this behaviour. Footnotes:  two reasons not to try trinity live, first in the past I had difficulties with trinty live, second KDE4 ships some useful stuff, for example configuring the printer turned out easier in KDE4 than in trinty.