On 01/04/2017 04:36 PM, Leslie Turriff wrote: >> I only see a countdown timer once in a while when some program refuses to >> close. Is that what you're talking about? If so, best solution would >> probably be to identify the offending program and shut it down first. > That would work, but then when I restart my machine, none of my apps will > restart. In my experience, the only apps that hang up the shutdown process > are those that the DE is not aware of, e.g. X applications. If there's a particular thing it always hangs on, I guess I'd be trying to figure out why. You can always force the shutdown, but of course there may be a risk of data loss. Or you could go to a root shell and type 'init 0', and see if that's faster.