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Re: [trinity-users] Installation questions

From: Chris Austin <chris@...>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:29:20 +0100
On Sunday 24 Sep 2017 20:17:51 Greg Madden wrote:
>  Sunday 24 September 2017 07:55:26 pm D. R. Evans wrote:
> > Greg Madden wrote on 09/24/2017 07:42 PM:
> > > On Sunday 24 September 2017 05:20:54 pm D. R. Evans wrote:
> > >> So:
> > >> 
> > >> 1. Looking at the packages that will be removed, will I still be able
> > >> to
> > >> run virtualbox if virtualbox-dkms is removed? [I think that the answer
> > >> is yes, but I would like some assurance from someone who is more
> > >> certain
> > >> than am I.]
> > >> 
> > >> 2. And then what about desktop-base? The version that is currently
> > >> installed is from the official debian stable repository, so I don't
> > >> think that I should be removing it. So what should I do about this
> > >> conflict?
> > >> 
> > >>   Doc
> > > 
> > > If you are using Debian, upgrading to Stretch, the following apply.
> > > 
> > > Virtualbox is no longer in Stretch,  if you use Vbox you issues are
> > > larger.You
> > 
> > Yes; I already added the oracle package yesterday, and it appears to be
> > working fine.
> > 
> > I *think* that virtualbox-dkms is used only when vb is being installed, so
> > it should be safe to remove it; but I'm not absolutely certain.
> > 
> > > desktop-base-trinity replaces the Debian desktop-base
> > 
> > OK; so I should let aptitude do what it wants to do, which is to remove
> > the
> > debian desktop-base, right?
> > 
> > One more question as a follow-on to this: when TDE is installed, is it
> > still possible to run KDE despite the fact that the debian desktiop-base
> > is
> > no longer in place? (Just in case some program doesn't work on TDE and I
> > have to go back to KDE temporarily.)
> > 
> >   Doc
> Only one Desktop base can be installed at a time.
> FYI, I run lots of different apps on my TDE, all work.
> greg

When I installed Trinity over Debian 8.7 starting on Friday 12 May this year, 
I couldn't get apt or aptitude to recognize the TDE R14.0.4 repositories as on  So I did the installation 
manually with dpkg, using the repository web addresses for Jessie given on the 
page.  I first attempted to install the tdebase-trinity meta-package, then 
manually located and installed all the packages dpkg required me to install 
before it would set up tdebase-trinity.

I don't recall being asked to uninstall any Debian package, and indeed, I 
would have been extremely worried if I had been asked to do so.

As I installed the packages, I moved them to a DebianInstalled/ directory, so 
I can see what I actually installed by looking in there.  Doing ls on that 
directory, it seems I have not installed any desktop-base-"anything", so I 
must still be using the Debian desktop-base, which would presumably have been 
installed when I did a fresh install of Debian 8.7 in March this year.

I am very happy with my TDE installation, so my advice to Doc would be to do 
the same as me, and just install tdebase-trinity and its dependencies.

After I had installed Trinity, I was still able to use KDE4 rather than 
Trinity by selecting KDE4 in the KDM menu, but I very quickly decided that I 
preferred Trinity, and I have never been back to KDE4 since perhaps a week 
after I installed Trinity.  I installed TDM a few days after I installed 
Trinity, and use the TDM login now.

I can run the best KDE4 apps, such as Konqueror-KDE4, in Trinity, and thus get 
the best of both worlds, by putting the appropriate path for the KDE4 version 
in the Command field for a new menu item in Menu Editor.  To run Konqueror-KDE4 
in Trinity, I put the command /usr/bin/konqueror in the Command field.