On Monday 19 February 2018 07:36:57 Brian Durant wrote: > On 2018-02-19 11:30, William Morder wrote: > > On Sunday 18 February 2018 23:23:38 Brian Durant wrote: > >> On February 19, 2018 7:45:45 AM GMT+01:00, Thierry de Coulon > > > > <tcoulon@...> wrote: > >>> On Sunday 18 February 2018 14.41:01 William Morder wrote: > >>>> I've been trying out TDE off and on since the project started; ever > >>> > >>> since > >>> > >>>> they killed KDE3, and I looked around for something as usable and > >>> > >>> practical > >>> > >>>> as the KDE3x desktop (which I first used on PC Linux, and later on > >>> > >>> Ubuntu > >>> > >>>> Hardy 8.04). > >>> > >>> (...) > >>> > >>>> In other words, it was the KDE desktop environment, and the default > >>>> settings therein, which were interfering with the smooth operation of > >>> > >>> TDE. > >>> > >>> This could be a *buntu problem. I am running TDE on various Debian > >>> based > >>> distributions as well as openSUSE, *with* KDE 4/5 apps (mostly > >>> kdenlive) and > >>> no such problem. > >> > >> All of these problems could of course be avoided, regardless of distro, > >> by installing a base, mini, server (or whatever it is called) version. > >> After that, you just add the Trinity repos to the list that your > >> distribution uses. > >> > >>> (...) > >>> > >>>> Bill > >>> > >>> Thierry > >> > >> Brian > > > > This sounds like it could be a useful suggestion; do a minimal > > installation, then add the Trinity repositories. > > > > Bill > > Here is my personal check list to make sure that useful items get added > to a minimal install: > > $ sudo apt-get install clipit axel aria2 aspell-da audacity ripperx > xarchiver desktop-base clipit cups gtkorphan gdebi pulseaudio > pavucontrol pepperflash wicd synaptic xcfa xorg > > I use Devuan Jessie, which doesn't use systemd. The "desktop-base" > package are some Devuan goodies. > > Hope the list helps. > > Brian > Thanks for the checklist of pkgs for minimal installation. It mostly resembles my own, with a few exceptions; but those items look useful. Also, I am interested in running Devuan over Debian, because I am less than enthusiastic about my systemd experience. It seems like systemd interferes with certain operations. I set out to learn Debian first, before trying Devuan; because I was used to running the 'buntus, and unfamiliar with the differences in a Debian system. Now that I've got Debian under control (except for systemd), I think maybe I'm ready to go for Devuan. So if you can offer any advice about making the switch, I would be most grateful. Devuan repositories (including the onion links) are already in my sources.list. And I now have a second computer, and more liberty to explore and experiment. Bill > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-users-unsubscribe@... For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@... Read list > messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting