On Monday 19 February 2018 13:49:16 Felix Miata wrote: > William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 12:53 (UTC-0800): > > Felix Miata wrote: > >> William Morder composed on 2018-02-19 10:53 (UTC-0800): > >> > Now that somebody gave me an old laptop (Sony Vaio), I can try to > >> > create a system that runs only TDE from the start. But then you must > >> > start out running everything from a shell, am I right? because you > >> > don't yet have TDE installed? > >> > >> How hard is it to run one little script? e.g. Fedora: > >> > >> #!/bin/sh > >> dnf install > >> https://download1.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm > >> -E %fedora).noarch.rpm > >> https://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release > >>-$( rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm rpm -Uvh > >> http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity/rpm/f27/trinity-r14 > >>/RP MS/noarch/trinity-repo-14.0.4-1.fc27.noarch.rpm dnf install > >> trinity-tdebase trinity-kcalc trinity-kmix trinity-ksnapshot trinity-tdm > >> systemctl enable tdm.service > >> reboot > > > > Not hard at all, if one knows the script. But I don't run Redhat, so I > > would have to adapt it to Debian. > > I only bother with the script with Fedora because its dependence on > rpmfusion is much too complicated to remember. With any other distro, > adding TDE from the shell is just plain simple, essentially following the > instrucions on > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Debian_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Inst >ructions > > 1:add the two repo lines to /etc/apt/sources.list with mc's internal editor > 2:import the gpg key > 3:apt update > 4:apt install either tde-trinity to get everything, or a desired subset, > such as the five packages you see in my fedora script above. > 5:reboot Yes, I am familiar with this page. I have it bookmarked, added all the lines to my sources.list (and add new lines as TDE gets updated). I just comment out the lines I don't use, then delete them as I progress through upgrades. The commands for apt-get: that is all I use for downloading and installing pkgs. I don't use synaptic or any of those tools. Otherwise, I use dpkg, if I have saved pkgs; or when my network is down (which happens more often than seems normal where I live). > > > It seems to me that there are many more people out there who would like > > to run a Linux system with TDE, but they cannot find this sort of > > information. This is why I've started this thread. Maybe we can create > > some pages somewhere and post this kind of information. > > For me, the wiki page above is quite sufficient, once the target distro > installation has been completed. The harder part is finding that page in > the first place. From > https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment it's not > obvious to me that > > TDE > Documentation > > following > > Main page > and > Recent changes > > is how to eventually find it. The left column on that page needs to be > wider so that the link is not split over two lines when its font is forced > to a legible size. Yes, the information pages are not easily accessible. Only after you have thoroughly explored the Trinity site do you know where to find things; but that's only because I've bookmarked all the important pages. For somebody who is just starting out, it is like searching in the wilderness, equipped with nothing - not compass, map, flashlight, nor signposts. That's one of those items that I would like to see improved; because, as I've already said, more users for TDE would be of some benefit to all of us ... that is, if we want to keep using TDE into the indefinite future. > > Probably https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Tips_And_Tricks could stand to > include a writeup or a link to another page that outlines how to do a > minimal Debian installation in preparation to add and run only TDE, unless > there is one somewhere already that I just haven't seen. > > FWIW, this is how I create a "new" Debian installation: > > title Install Debian via HTTP > kernel (hd0,0)/debian/linux showopts vga=791 --- > netcfg/get_hostname=myhost netcfg/disable_dhcp=true tasks=standard > base-installer/install-recommends=false splash=0 > initrd (hd0,0)/debian/initrd.gz > > What that means is I have multiboot machines with Grub at the ready to load > any stanza I create. I prep the target / partition for a new installation, > save the appropriate installation kernel and initrd from a mirror, then let > Grub start the installation process. With Stretch I doubt it takes as much > as 30 minutes to be ready to initiate the TDE installation process. This is a net install? I like that. Thanks for your information. Bill