Pearsoncomputing.net is down too. Has Trinity moved? Does https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kubuntu/Kde3/Lucid need some updating? -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/