On Sunday 18 March 2018 08:01:39 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Sonntag, 18. M�rz 2018 schrieb Frank Lienhard:
> > [...]
> >
> > > As I point out in my "quick & dirty" method, I avoid these problems by
> > > saving the packages to an external drive, then use dpkg to install them
> > > when necessary.
> >
> > In the beginning of KDE4 I thought I might use trinity myself, but went
> > more "spartan" some time ago by using fluxbox. And since I learned, that
> > this "special" user tends to forget things anyway, I use anydesk now to
> > solve problems, which are the same anyway and are NOT depending on which
> > DE is used, so maybe I just use software from the official repros to
> > avoid trouble like this.
>
> If you stay with debian be prepared for systemd shooting it's foot in
> creative ways ...

Already doing my homework online. If anybody wants links to Devuan stuff, by 
the way, I found some interesting posts about what to install and purge, and 
how to enable networking before installation (thus solving a big problem with 
Debian-type installations); how to get rid of both systemd and dbus. 

I hear that systemd is better in many ways, and that there really are two 
sides to this story. However, I see how systemd performs on my system all the 
time (especially when I try to shutdown or reboot), and I long for the 
simple, slow sanity of sysvinit again. 

Bill