On 04/21/2018 04:13 PM, William Morder wrote:

> I stand at the brink of Devuan, not quite ready to take the plunge myself, yet
> share in your dislike of systemd and how Debian is inching into a rule of the
> few over the many. And I fear that it will soon drift into the same kind of
> crap that ruined Kubuntu (and the whole Ubuntu family) for me. There are just
> one or two refinements I want to make in my current system (so that I can
> find my way back when I get into a mess).


I'm sorry to hear you have systemd installed and you're not happy with 
it, if I knew what version you are using I could make a suggestion, I 
run all LTS versions or Debian and Ubuntu and now Devuan too.  For  hard 
drive management I use Wheezy and Jessie, for multimedia I use the 
latest.  Currently I'm looking at keeping some older systems around by 
rolling my own kernels.  There's always options.  And slicing off 
another partition for a new install is another option.

As for Ubuntu, they have messed up big-time and now they are on my list 
of things I don't want to do anymore and now Microsoft won't be lonely 
any more. :)


> The icon is nice, but I would recommend that all Devuan branding distinguish
> itself from Debian by making the spiral go round widdershins: that is,
> counter-clockwise. Then it would be perfect.


I hear you, it was just something I slapped together.

You do know that Devuan IS Debian don't you?  The only changes made 
effect systemd and the packages needed so you can install the desktop of 
choice, like udev and libpam, really just a hand full of packages are 
changed. I'm running Devuan from Debian's Sid to Jessie, in other words 
Devuan Jessie, ASCII, Beowulf and Ceres and Trinity is a clean install 
on them all with no real problem, All around Devuan Jessie is the best!


Bill just take away one thing from this post: If it's not fun don't do it.

Cheers!
-- 
Jimmy Johnson

Devuan ASCII - TDE Trinity R14.0.5 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda6
Registered Linux User #380263