On Friday 27 April 2018 10:50:16 dep wrote: > the good news is that protonmail has a free option and the unofficial > desktop application works well with tde. the bad news is that to store mail > on the local machine something like the protonmail bridge is needed; > otherwise, it is a kind of webmail interface (even in the desktop version) > and needs a secur browser to use. it's fine, for instance, with tor. also, > it either doesn't allow or makes difficult anythig but top posting, for > which i apologize. > > i have one of the paid programs, because i wanted to move the mail from a > domain i own to protonmail. I'll work with your top posting, since you can't help it. :-p I think that was it: Proton is okay with Tor, but requires javascript; which, for those who don't know better, negates any anonymity you would get from Tor. (That is, javascript makes pretty much all your information transparent, regardless whether you are using Tor or a VPN, etc.) However, if it will at least use an email client (Kmail or Claws), then it is no worse than any other encrypted connection. Also, there are ways to run email clients over a secure shell. (I did it before, but am not current on how-to; but if it could be done before, then I will hope that it can still be done in future when I get round to it.) Also I am looking for services similar to Proton. I seem to recall there was one situated in Iceland: https://www.mailpile.is/ -- which made big promises, but didn't actually seem to work with my system at the time. Again, I can't recall the reason, as this was maybe a year ago when I tried it. They were still in development, or only had 64-bit deb packages, or something like that. Again, I would ask Slavek to create qt5 dependencies or other necessary packages, as I imagine that there will be more such requests coming from others like myself. There is a page somewhere for making requests for Trinity versions of packages; you just need to provide a link to an existing package (most recent working version) in the Debian repositories. Bill > > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 1:38 PM, William Morder <doctor_contendo@...> wrote: > > On Friday 27 April 2018 09:38:13 dep wrote: > was just now trying to > > install the protonmail bridge bets, which is to > allow existing email > > clients to work with protonmail. but the .deb install > failed for lack > > of a litany of qt5 dependencies. i have a bunch of qt4 > things installed > > and they seem to work alongside tde perfectly well. so i > sought to > > install qt5-essentials, the first of the dependencies. after > which -- i > > typically install packages from the commandline -- i got this > unhappy > > display: > > The following packages were automatically installed and are > > no longer > required: acpi amarok-common-trinity > > amarok-engine-xine-trinity > amarok-trinity arts-trinity bluetooth > > bluez-utils crystalcursors > desktop-effects-tde-trinity dmz-cursor-theme > > fonts-arabeyes foo2zjs > fortune-mod fortunes-min fotoxx-common > > gir1.2-ges-1.0 > gir1.2-gst-plugins-base-1.0 gir1.2-gstreamer-1.0 > > gir1.2-json-1.0 > gstreamer1.0-gnonlin gtk-qt-engine-trinity > > gtk3-tqt-engine-trinity > gwenview-trinity kaffeine-trinity karm-trinity > > katapult-trinity > kbstate-trinity kdbusnotification-trinity keep-trinity > > kmag-trinity > kmailcvt-trinity kmousetool-trinity kmplayer-base-trinity > > > kmplayer-konq-plugins-trinity konversation-trinity kopete-trinity > > > kpf-trinity kppp-trinity krdc-trinity krfb-trinity > > > ksplash-engine-moodin-trinity ksystemlog-trinity ktorrent-trinity > > > kubuntu-default-settings-trinity kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts-trinity > > > kvkbd-trinity landscape-client landscape-common lftp libavahi-tqt-1 > > > libccfits0 libcfitsio3 libdbus-tqt-1-1c2 libges-1.0-0 libifp4 > > > libjs-sphinxdoc libmp4v2-2 libnjb5 libqt5concurrent5 libraw9 librsync1 > > > libscim8c2a min12xxw pnm2ppa powermanagement-interface pxljr > > > python-gst-1.0 python-pylibacl python-pyxattr qt4-tqt-theme-engine > > rdesktop > rdiff-backup scim-bridge-client-qt scim-im-agent > > scim-modules-socket screen > speedcrunch splix strigi-daemon > > synaptic-trinity tqca-tls ttf-arabeyes > ttf-arphic-ukai ttf-arphic-uming > > ttf-lao ttf-malayalam-fonts ttf-thai-tlwg > ttf-unfonts-core Use 'apt-get > > autoremove' to remove them. > > oh, and it also deleted xorg, though i > > quickly reinstalled that. > > i'm hoping to make everyone play nice > > together, but before i do that i hope > to back out of whatever i've > > gotten myself into, lest the machine surprise > me at next reboot. > > > > help!! > > dep > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure > > Email. Because > privacy matters. Yeah, you want to reinstall all that > > stuff, unless you don't really need some of it. (I have found speedcrunch > > to be a problem on my system, for example, but now I forget why.) It > > doesn't seem to have uninstalled desktop-core-trinity, but I do recognize > > a lot of those items as oft-used, if not strictly essential packages. > > There ought to be a workaround to get qt5 dependencies installed; if not, > > put in a request for Slavek or whoever to create them. I requested some > > packages (tork-trinity and kshowmail-trinity) a few years ago, and they > > were created in a few days, and have worked great ever since. Also, I > > would like to switch to ProtonMail or something similar, but have had > > problems registering for an account. As I recall, it kept rejecting my > > connection; also, I can't remember if they offer free accounts, or only > > paid accounts. So I am interested to hear your progress in getting > > ProtonMail to work with something like Kmail or Claws. Bill > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To > > unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@... > > For additional commands, e-mail: > > trinity-users-help@... Read list messages on the > > web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember > > not to top-post: > > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting