Hi!

Am Sonntag, 29. April 2018 schrieb William Morder:
> 
> On Sunday 29 April 2018 11:32:08 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > Am Sonntag, 29. April 2018 schrieb Greg Madden:
> > > protonmail offers (extra cost) a vpn service, afaik,  vpn secures the
> > > mail from man in the middle, ie. isp's, compromised routers, etc.
> > > Encryption leaks some info enroute making vpn neccessary, not an extra.
> > >
> > > $.02
> > > Greg Madden
> >
> > Well, I'm not a friend of vpn services. On one hand, i's harder to mantain
> > than ssh. On the other, it does not provide with any improvement over e.g.
> > sshuttle. And on one foot, I do not trust vpn salestalk since it has bitten
> > me more than once... (see, I have still one foot left for standing :-) )
> >
> > Nik
> 
> I agree. VPN = snake oil. Maybe not always, but VPNs promise more than they 
> can deliver. I trust more in the anonymity of Tor (and take my chances with 
> rogue actors and man-in-the-middle attacks), than to suppose that privacy and 
> security can be bought. 
> 
> There also won't ever be some magic bullet or perfect solution; it will always 
> be like cat-and-mouse. Encryption keeps getting better, and cracking tools 
> also get better, and that's how it will be. I just hope for relative success, 
> to leave few data traces "out there", but I don't imagine that I am 
> invisible. 
> 
> Bill

You know what's the funniest part of all of this? Realy bad guys don't use encryption at all - and get away with it.

Nik

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