still haven't fixed artsd -- what package is it in, that i might try to reinstall or something? -- but i am writing this on trinity's kmail, through the protonmail bridge, which encrypts it and sends it down the pipe to their server, which sends it out in whatever form the list receives it. which i suspect is a first. a minor first to be sure, but a first. -- dep Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email. Because privacy matters.