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Re: [trinity-users] can burn DVDs but not CDs

From: William Morder <doctor_contendo@...>
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 11:20:55 -0700

On Friday 08 June 2018 08:30:37 elcaseti wrote:
> In my experience, K3B works well for burning data CDs & data DVDs, but not
> as well for musik CDs.  I have had good luck with the version of Nero
> burning ROM for GNU/Linux & for Windows for burning musik CDs.  I'm not a
> fan of non-libre software, but when I burned musik CDs using K3B, and some
> other libre software burning programs, I had annoying audio problems that
> weren't always noticeable at first.
>
My CDs always turn out great with k3b; but the quality always depends on the 
quality of your original source. If you try burning from mp3 files (which 
are "lossy"), then you will have some problems. I always burn from either 
flac or wav files. Also, if the flac or wav files were converted from mp3 or 
another "lossy" format, then one can expect that the quality is not good. Not 
sure if the problems you mention have to do with quality, or something else. 
Skipping, hissing, etc., may be due to using a lower-quality source; it might 
sound pretty good on your computer, or on an mp3 player, but not when you try 
to play from a CD. 

I refuse to use non-free / non-libre / proprietary software, unless a gun is 
pointed at my head. 

> On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:59 PM, Kate Draven <borglabs4@...> wrote:
> > > I'm not sure if this problem specifically concerns Trinity. I
> > > generally burn CDs and DVDs with k3b, and almost never use any other
> > > program.
> >
> > > (I'm using the k3b-trinity packages.) I considered trying to use the
> > > non-Trinity version of k3b, or to boot into a KDE desktop instead of
> > > TDE, to see if that works. However, I also tried with Brasero, and had 
> > > similar problems, so I'm guessing that the problem is not just with 
> > > Trinity. 
> > >
> > > No problem at all burning DVDs, including dual-layer. (I don't know
>> > about Blu-Ray, but I don't use them.) Whenever I try to burn CDs,  
>> > however, k3b goes through the whole process, creating image,  
>> > normalisation, etc., then crashes before it actually burns the CD.
> > >
> > > I ought to say that these are audio CDs. I've tried burning flac and
> > > wav files to CD, both with the same bad results. Also, a few weeks back, 
> > >  I tried to copy a large collection of mp3 files to a DVD as a data
> > > disc, but the program crashed before it could complete, and ruined the 
> > > disc. I don't know if that incident could be related or not.
> > >
> > > It occurs to me to try to write a CD from the command-line, using 
> > > growisofs or the like, but I've never done that before.
> > >
> > > I'm running Debian Jessie 8.8.0 and Trinity r14.04.
> > >
> > > Any help or observations would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Bill
> > >
> >
> > 1. You likely did this but just in case, just k3b's perms setup/
> > 2. Check all related perms (dvdrecord, cdr* etc).
> > 3. See if you can complete a burn as root (if you can, it's a perm
> > problem) 4. Also try burning at half the adverted speed.
> > Because of today's corner cutting standards, disks are not always
> > adverted speeds.
> >
> > Let us know what happens and good luck,
> >
> > Kate
> >

I tried everything on your list except burning as root. I try to avoid that, 
but I suppose if I disconnect from the Internet, I can minimize any risk. 

Right now I am going through my permissions, to see if maybe I am not in the 
burning group, etc. I looked at the help file, but there seem to be a lot of 
instructions that refer to legacy items from the old KDE3 desktop, so I need 
to find where it is in TDE. 

Anyway, I've been using k3b since about 2006, never with any problems. Once I 
had got it set up just right, in fact, I haven't changed anything in my 
configuration since then ... until now. I have always just cloned all my 
settings from one home folder to another, from one computer to another, and 
kept running either KDE3 or TDE. Now I have some weird issues: like how k3b 
refuses to use my preferred theme, and keeps reverting to the default after 
every reboot (except that every once in a totally random while it *does* use 
it, just to tease me, and then again reverts to default). 

I never had to mess round with k3b, so now it's like I am a total n00bie all 
over again. There used to be some configuration files kept in 
/home/~/.kde/share/config/
(k3brc, etc), but I don't know if they affect the k3b-trinity package or not. 
I've looked for the corresponding file in 
/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg/ (I think ...?) 
but nothing seems to fit. 

By the way, this kind of thing only happens to me whenever I starting bragging 
on the virtues of GNU/Linux, or the TDE desktop, or something like that. 
Then, when I want to show off what I can do, I immediately have issues, and 
must excuse myself for a month or two, while I go into seclusion to resolve 
my technical problems. I believe that there is some kind of moral lesson 
here, but that I stubbornly keep trying to spread the gospel of  
enlightenment / liberation / free software to the ungrateful masses. 
GNU/Linux is not really an operating system or type of software, but rather a 
lifestyle, a secret cult, a mystical experience, reserved only to the 
relatively pure of heart. 

Bill