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Re: [trinity-users] Re: got a puzzle

From: William Morder <doctor_contendo@...>
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2018 07:11:32 -0700

On Sunday 10 June 2018 06:50:38 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 10 June 2018 09:29:59 William Morder wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 June 2018 05:12:19 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:39:32 Pisini, John wrote:
> > > > Steven Pusser is one of the MX Linux Devs but I can't see him
> > > > doing that to your machine.
> > >
> > > In that event, neither can I. I must have added that repo because it
> > > had something I wanted and have forgotten both when and what.
> > >
> > > > Hopefully you have backups as the machine should
> > > > really be rebuilt.
> > >
> > > That I do, amanda runs every night.
> > >
> > > Rebuilt to debian amd64 stretch 9.4, iso coming in now. Next is
> > > firmware updates for seagate 2T drives and get another. Then burn a
> > > couple dvd's and a cd of the seagate firmware. And a fresh flash of
> > > my router's dd-wrt. Busy day ahead.
> > >
> > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Gene Heskett
> > > > <gheskett@...>
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:05:32 deloptes wrote:
> > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > > > Call me puzzled. Or worse.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this doesn't sound good - I would take the machine offline and
> > > > > > reinstall from scratch ... unless you are schizophrenic and
> > > > > > your other identity is this steven. Cause you won't know what
> > > > > > was replaced/installed from this site. Programs might be
> > > > > > replaced with compromised etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this is my opinion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > you wanted anyway to upgrade some time soon - what you can
> > > > > > save are the configurations you have there - but I would not
> > > > > > keep this machine online or at least not in my internal
> > > > > > network.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > >
> > > > > That will be difficult as there is not another machine to
> > > > > replace it, its the heart of my network. But the thought of
> > > > > upgrading to jessie has crossed my mind, maybe even stretch. I'm
> > > > > going to look through the logs, and I guess run up to staples
> > > > > and get me a couple 2T drives. My normal upgrade it always to a
> > > > > new drive so I have the old drive available for the legacy
> > > > > stuffs, like my kmail cache that goes back to about 2007.
> > > > >
> > > > > And this time I think I'll go full 64 bit as some versions of
> > > > > linuxcnc will now run on a 64 bit install. Jessie, on an rpi3b
> > > > > is running my lathe pretty good.
> > > > >
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> > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > This is just a wild guess ... but is there any chance that you have
> > downloaded the Pale Moon browser recently?
> >
> > Steven Pusser's repo appears after you download Pale Moon.
>
> Bingo. But the last palemoon needs gtk stuffs newer than wheezy has, so
> while I was there, I didn't download it THIS time. It was several months
> ago when I put it in. And its been running rougher recently.
>
> > However, I
> > don't allow that to happen. I copy the URL of that repo to my
> > sources.list manually, then backup and maintain my sources.list on an
> > external hard drive.
> >
> > Bill
> >

I have found Pale Moon to be a pretty nice clone of Firefox/Iceweasel. I can 
use Mozilla browsers pretty much interchangeably, and once I get them like I 
want, I just copy everything from one folder to another, so that my Pale 
Moon, Firefox, Iceweasel, IceCat, SeaMonkey, and all other Mozilla, 
quasi-Mozilla and pseudo-Mozilla browsers look almost identical, and I have 
all my custom search engines, extensions, whatever I want. I like to use them 
for different kinds of searching online. I don't like to use the same browser 
for everything. I use them each for dedicated tasks; for example, I use 
SeaMonkey for my one and only social network, and nothing else. I has one 
cookie in it, and no browsing information at all, except for my maintenance 
of the blog itself. I use Pale Moon for browsing news sites, etc., and it 
keeps no history, cookies, etc. And so on, and so on. I like to experiment 
with the possibilities, and to try out different browsers, and to see how I 
can configure them to do different tricks. I have got them to fetch, but not 
yet to roll over or beg. 

Anyway, so I backup my sources.list to an external drive: 
sudo 
cp -r -v -f /etc/apt/sources.list -t /media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list-20180610.txt 
(Also, make sure you open up Konqueror or some other file manager as root, and 
explore /etc/apt/ for whatever else you keep there, especially 
in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - which is where you'll find third-party 
repositories like Opera, Vivaldi, Open Office, and Pale Moon.) 
However, I don't allow them to write my sources.list; I copy those 
repositories to my master copy on the external drive, and maintain my 
sources.list from there. Make sure to rename it to something else; e.g.,with 
the date of backup. From this I create my master copy of the sources.list, 
and whenever I update my sources.list, I can overwrite the version 
in /etc/apt/
sudo cp -r -v -f /media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list -t /etc/apt/ 
and run sudo apt-get update. 
By doing this, too, I can update my sources.list on-the-fly, and maintain 
different versions of it for different repositories. 

I set kedit (actually kedit-trinity) to open up my master copy of the 
sources.list (from my external hard drive), and can edit as I go along, and 
easily switch between different versions of my sources.list. And I can keep 
my own personal repository on a flash drive, and use that as my default, and 
switch back to online repositories whenever I need to download something new. 

If this seems either obvious or cumbersome, or highly unorthodox, I can only 
say that it works for me. I get complete control over my repositories, and do 
my updates and upgrades manually, so that nothing gets installed 
automatically. 

Glad that I could be of some help. I would hate to think that I was good for 
nothing. 

;-)

Bill