On Sunday 10 June 2018 10:11:32 William Morder wrote: > On Sunday 10 June 2018 06:50:38 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 09:29:59 William Morder wrote: > > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 05:12:19 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:39:32 Pisini, John wrote: > > > > > Steven Pusser is one of the MX Linux Devs but I can't see him > > > > > doing that to your machine. > > > > > > > > In that event, neither can I. I must have added that repo > > > > because it had something I wanted and have forgotten both when > > > > and what. > > > > > > > > > Hopefully you have backups as the machine should > > > > > really be rebuilt. > > > > > > > > That I do, amanda runs every night. > > > > > > > > Rebuilt to debian amd64 stretch 9.4, iso coming in now. Next is > > > > firmware updates for seagate 2T drives and get another. Then > > > > burn a couple dvd's and a cd of the seagate firmware. And a > > > > fresh flash of my router's dd-wrt. Busy day ahead. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 7:32 AM, Gene Heskett > > > > > <gheskett@...> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Sunday 10 June 2018 07:05:32 deloptes wrote: > > > > > > > Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > Call me puzzled. Or worse. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this doesn't sound good - I would take the machine offline > > > > > > > and reinstall from scratch ... unless you are > > > > > > > schizophrenic and your other identity is this steven. > > > > > > > Cause you won't know what was replaced/installed from this > > > > > > > site. Programs might be replaced with compromised etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you wanted anyway to upgrade some time soon - what you can > > > > > > > save are the configurations you have there - but I would > > > > > > > not keep this machine online or at least not in my > > > > > > > internal network. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > > > That will be difficult as there is not another machine to > > > > > > replace it, its the heart of my network. But the thought of > > > > > > upgrading to jessie has crossed my mind, maybe even stretch. > > > > > > I'm going to look through the logs, and I guess run up to > > > > > > staples and get me a couple 2T drives. My normal upgrade it > > > > > > always to a new drive so I have the old drive available for > > > > > > the legacy stuffs, like my kmail cache that goes back to > > > > > > about 2007. > > > > > > > > > > > > And this time I think I'll go full 64 bit as some versions > > > > > > of linuxcnc will now run on a 64 bit install. Jessie, on an > > > > > > rpi3b is running my lathe pretty good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > >---- ---- --- To unsubscribe, e-mail: > > > > > > > trinity-users-unsubscribe@... For > > > > > > > additional commands, e-mail: > > > > > > > trinity-users-help@... Read list > > > > > > > messages on the web archive: > > > > > > > http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember > > > > > > > not to top-post: > > > > > > > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-pos > > > > > > >ting > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > This is just a wild guess ... but is there any chance that you > > > have downloaded the Pale Moon browser recently? > > > > > > Steven Pusser's repo appears after you download Pale Moon. > > > > Bingo. But the last palemoon needs gtk stuffs newer than wheezy has, > > so while I was there, I didn't download it THIS time. It was several > > months ago when I put it in. And its been running rougher recently. > > > > > However, I > > > don't allow that to happen. I copy the URL of that repo to my > > > sources.list manually, then backup and maintain my sources.list on > > > an external hard drive. > > > > > > Bill > > I have found Pale Moon to be a pretty nice clone of Firefox/Iceweasel. > I can use Mozilla browsers pretty much interchangeably, and once I get > them like I want, I just copy everything from one folder to another, > so that my Pale Moon, Firefox, Iceweasel, IceCat, SeaMonkey, and all > other Mozilla, quasi-Mozilla and pseudo-Mozilla browsers look almost > identical, and I have all my custom search engines, extensions, > whatever I want. I like to use them for different kinds of searching > online. I don't like to use the same browser for everything. I use > them each for dedicated tasks; for example, I use SeaMonkey for my one > and only social network, and nothing else. I has one cookie in it, and > no browsing information at all, except for my maintenance of the blog > itself. I use Pale Moon for browsing news sites, etc., and it keeps no > history, cookies, etc. And so on, and so on. I like to experiment with > the possibilities, and to try out different browsers, and to see how I > can configure them to do different tricks. I have got them to fetch, > but not yet to roll over or beg. > > Anyway, so I backup my sources.list to an external drive: > sudo > cp -r -v -f /etc/apt/sources.list -t > /media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list-20180610.txt (Also, > make sure you open up Konqueror or some other file manager as root, > and explore /etc/apt/ for whatever else you keep there, especially in > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ - which is where you'll find third-party > repositories like Opera, Vivaldi, Open Office, and Pale Moon.) > However, I don't allow them to write my sources.list; I copy those > repositories to my master copy on the external drive, and maintain my > sources.list from there. Make sure to rename it to something else; > e.g.,with the date of backup. From this I create my master copy of the > sources.list, and whenever I update my sources.list, I can overwrite > the version in /etc/apt/ > sudo cp -r -v -f /media/~/sources/debian-jessie/apt/sources.list -t > /etc/apt/ and run sudo apt-get update. > By doing this, too, I can update my sources.list on-the-fly, and > maintain different versions of it for different repositories. > > I set kedit (actually kedit-trinity) to open up my master copy of the > sources.list (from my external hard drive), and can edit as I go > along, and easily switch between different versions of my > sources.list. And I can keep my own personal repository on a flash > drive, and use that as my default, and switch back to online > repositories whenever I need to download something new. > > If this seems either obvious or cumbersome, or highly unorthodox, I > can only say that it works for me. I get complete control over my > repositories, and do my updates and upgrades manually, so that nothing > gets installed automatically. > > Glad that I could be of some help. I would hate to think that I was > good for nothing. > > ;-) > > Bill > Chuckle. Yes, thats a bummer feeling. And I'm aged enough that what I say is often out of date by the time it echo's back from the list. Anyway, I'm off (as soon as I build some lunch and we partake) to first update my dd-wrt install just in case, then once thats back among the living, see if I can figure out how to beat the debian installer into making a BIG /home, and install stretch from iso #1, to a brand new drive. Then see if I can beat stretch into working with a host based local network. So far, the installs I've done have required a hand applied command to make the gateway register in route -n output. PITA. Thanks -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. 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