On 06/20/2018 12:27 PM, Mike Bird wrote: > On Wed June 20 2018 12:04:46 Jimmy Johnson wrote: >> On 06/20/2018 11:42 AM, Mike Bird wrote: >>> Jessie is usable but LTS means Long Term Support means less security >>> support. >>> >>> That said, if Ascii does not work for you then I would recommend Devuan >>> Jessie at least in the short term. You need to get a solid base that >>> works for you and then upgrade by simple stages. >> >> Do you mean like if I do a Jessie base install and then upgrade to ASCII >> and then install my desktop or something else? Just so you know Trinity >> for Jessie will not install on ASCII/Stretch, I wish it would. > > Trinity Stable for Jessie works well with Jessie. To bad it don't work with ASCII. > Trinity PSB for Ascii works well with Ascii. > > Please make your posts as precise as possible. I still don't know what you > mean when you say you migrated to the "Devuan Jessie-Beowulf merged version". Bill said that not me. >>> Can you give me a Debian bug number for the HDMI problem for reference? >> >> In more than 20 years I've never filed a bug report, but there have been >> Dev's who have shown a interest and have been able to reproduce the >> problems I have found and have filed bug reports, so I don't know if >> there has been a bug report filed or not. > > Please search Debian bug reports for your Debian HDMI bug. If there's no > report on your problem please file one. Why should I start now. > If there's a TDE bug please do > the same with TDE bug reports ... but thus far I don't see any TDE aspect > to this and I don't understand why you're posting complaints to a TDE list > instead of filing bugs to the Debian bug database. I'm not using Debian, I'm using Devuan. Also I was talking to Bill and then you jumped in, so I explained the problem to you and why I don't recommend Bill upgrading from Jessie. I'm pretty sure what's going on is a security problem and part of that systemd crap that has not been rooted out yet. Besides I like using Jessie and hate to upgrade, but I will test most anything and give a report *if I feel like it*. Also I'm not much of a joiner. :) I'm sure the problem will be fixed in time it just takes a couple of years. In the meantime Dev's will be using Jessie and will not notice the problem. If you're in Yosemite I worked there for about 10 yrs(early 80's to the early 90's), just thought I'd let you know. Cheers, -- Jimmy Johnson Devuan Jessie - TDE Trinity R14.0.4 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda2 Registered Linux User #380263