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Month: June 2018

Re: [trinity-users] system colors & permission problems

From: Jimmy Johnson <>
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 00:11:13 -0700
On 06/22/2018 09:17 AM, William Morder wrote:
> I don't know if these issues are really connected; I only know that they seem
> to occur together. Feel free to separate the two issues if that is more
> accurate.
> Issue #1
> I noticed that my system colors are not applied to some applications. In
> particular, the Firefox/Iceweasel and Seamonkey browsers. Sometimes when I
> start up, these take on my KDE4 Plasma color settings (even when KDE4 is not
> installed); sometimes (maybe one-third to one-half of my installations),
> everything in the GUI is white, sort of like in Gnome desktops that I've
> seen. (Again, Gnome is not installed, though I do use some standalone
> applications.) I can make PaleMoon take on my TDE color scheme settings, and
> when I uncheck the button that says "apply to non TDE applications", etc.,
> it, too, turns all white like these other apps; however, PaleMoon never takes
> on the color scheme from the KDE4 Plasma desktop. And then, at other times,
> after I install I get my TDE settings. (Maybe one out of ten installations, I
> will have Seamonkey and Firefox/Iceweasel use my TDE color scheme settings.)
> Then again, sometimes they will use my KDE4 settings. Both are available in
> my TDE desktop, but only KDE4 settings are available in that desktop.
> Trinity Control Center/Colors
> x Apply colors to non-TDE applications
> KDE4
> System Settings/Application Appearance/Colors/Options
> x Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications
> I don't so much care if they use the KDE4 settings or the TDE color settings,
> just so long as it's not white. This isn't just that I hate that my pretty
> desktop is spoiled; I started using these settings because a white screen
> triggers a migraine - especially when I am working late at night in a dark
> room. I impose dark screen settings on my default browsers and other
> applications, too, for this reason. Also, there is a practical reason:
> whenever I see a white screen, this usually reminds me that I have opened
> that application as root, so that I am sure to be careful I don't really mess
> up or delete stuff.
> It occurred to me to try to purge the offending applications, then to try to
> reinstall them from within the KDE4 desktop environment, and to do the same
> within TDE, but this made no difference. Thus far, my only options are either
> to live with the lack of color, or to reinstall my system yet again, and hope
> for the best.

You're holding kde4 apps?  You should get rid of them and install tde 
apps.  You should get rid of hidden system settings in your home too, 
except for mail, browser and collections. And after you remove that 
stuff install and run 'upgrade-system', it will run dist-upgrade and 
deborphan.  You can do a synaptic search for kde and remove them all, 
just don't remove the trinity stuff, they are easy to spot. Start out 
clean and build a solid system that you will want to use for the next 2 
plus years.

> Issue #2
> This may or may not be related; it could be a permissions problem. I now find
> that some of my external hard drives cannot be mounted or used, because I can
> only access them as root. Even if I wanted to use them as root, it means that
> I cannot access music files with my media player, for example. Again, this
> has happened before, though not often, usually after a fresh installation. In
> the past, it seems the only cure is to reinstall everything. However, since
> I've not got this Devuan Jessie system working pretty well, I don't want to
> mess up a good thing, especially if there is an easy fix.
> I've already tried changing permissions, and that sort of thing. I am guessing
> that there might be some kind of config files buried somewhere. I've
> searched, but thus far I can find nothing.

You should be able to solve that by editing fstab, add the drives there 
and then use kwikdisk/kdf-trinity and or konqueror-trinity to mount, 
need help with fstab, let me know, also you Bill are welcome to send me 
private email.

> Devuan Jessie 8.8.x
> TDE Trinity 14.0.4

Welcome to Devuan Jessie, it's almost as good as Wheezy. ;)
Wednesday I put this Devuan Jessie+Trinity together:
Jimmy Johnson

Debian Wheezy - KDE 4.8.4 - AMD A8-7600 - EXT4 at sda10
Registered Linux User #380263