On Fri, 5 Oct 2018, William Morder wrote: > I assumed readers would know I meant that, in Linux, drivers are packaged in a > such a way that quite often we "never notice them", as you put it; except, > that is, when it comes to third-party, proprietary stuff. ok, so it just comes down to a matter of perception but we have agreement on what a 'driver' is (thanks, E. Liddel) and also that not everything is "out of the box" in Linux for some of us. > Thanks for the message, as I am glad to see that your address is not getting > marked as spam. E. Liddel's messages *always* go to spam in my case as well as one or two others. no loss since I regularly check and haul them out but then they are not in sequence. my address hides the fact it is a gmail system. I should write a filter. f. -- Felmon Davis