On 2018-10-05 13:49:58 Felmon Davis wrote: > On Fri, 5 Oct 2018, William Morder wrote: > > I assumed readers would know I meant that, in Linux, drivers are packaged > > in a such a way that quite often we "never notice them", as you put it; > > except, that is, when it comes to third-party, proprietary stuff. > > ok, so it just comes down to a matter of perception but we have > agreement on what a 'driver' is (thanks, E. Liddel) and also that not > everything is "out of the box" in Linux for some of us. > > > Thanks for the message, as I am glad to see that your address is not > > getting marked as spam. > > E. Liddel's messages *always* go to spam in my case as well as one or > two others. no loss since I regularly check and haul them out but then > they are not in sequence. my address hides the fact it is a gmail > system. I should write a filter. > > f. The only Linux drivers that I've had problems with are the Wacom driver, because of my ancient RS-232 serial-port tablet) and the obscure USB-to-serial driver which I tried to use on a machine that had no native serial ports. I also struggle regularly with the PulseAudio subsystem, which is not well supported on OpenSuSE, but I consider it to be an application, not a driver. Leslie