On Sat, 8 Dec 2018, deloptes wrote: > Felmon Davis wrote: > >> and jealous. it's more or less what I used to have. > > what happens if you create a fresh user and try with fresh (default) > settings? I used 'adduser' and opened the session; still problem with VLC. so, yeah, something in the basic system. I suspect I have to fool around with gtk2 somewhere. I dread that but may dig in tonight. the other applications I use seem ok. Pan has changed its interface so that the menu icons are more 'pastel', which I dislike, but I generally ignore them anyway. f. -- Felmon Davis