> a new wrinkle - hadn't noticed but the menu options in OpenOffice are > now only visible if you pass the mouse cursor over them. > > weird. > > the laptop is an ASUS UX305F. > > no such problems until Stretch. of course, I may have mangled the > update somehow. > > tried a reboot also. this thing usually runs 24/7. > > f. > > > -- > Felmon Davis > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Felmon I've experience that before. It's a theming problem. Change your gtk settings on kcontrol until you find one that works and that you like. Install gtk theme to use. For gtk2, I use qtcurve. You need to install both tde and kde versions. For gtk3, I use default or adwaita. For fonts I use tde fonts. Good luck, let me know if this helps. Kate