> On Tuesday 11 December 2018 18:12:00 Kate Draven wrote:
> 
> > > Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > > If you are a "luck" person and you run Windooz10, then you find
> > > > that this multi gadget protocol is broken since ~ 1 year ... hail
> > > > progress!
> > >
> > > don't know why corp is doing windows - I think it is pure burning of
> > > money ... I got one v10 few months ago and it is still laying on my
> > > desk unused.
> > > But I have no idea how this is working with cameras there. The corp
> > > is paying for it to stay there on the desk and do some work. It is
> > > doing it more or less good on its own. I alaways have to repeat
> > > myself what Linuz Torvald said about it - something like a very good
> > > company, but the problem is they make crappy software.
> > > So ... times go by and some things never change - amazing.
> > >
> > > > At least on *nix you can fix stuff like this, even when redhat
> > > > tries hard to break it.
> > >
> > > Well for the Windows, you have the windows admin - a person that
> > > should be admired for the skill to support "crappy software" :) and
> > > keep the universe in balance :)
> > > Honestly ... no idea how those guys have the patience. I had to
> > > factory restore one PC lately for a friend, because it got unusable
> > > after 6y of use ... I think it took 8h or more to install all the
> > > updates or at least to try to ... with numerous reboots in between.
> > > I have not done this for years and it was impressive experience. In
> > > the mean time I could do a lot of work on the linux PC that was
> > > installed 15y ago. Amazing!
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > >
> > > --------------------------------------------------------------------
> > >-
> >
> > Cheers Doc & deloptes, well observed, well said.
> >
> > Several mates went out of business supporting Vista,
> > Now, a few more are close to closing because of win10.
> >
> > All I get at the shop are people bring in there machines to have data
> > recovered after win8/10 died during an update (not so much win7).
> >
> > I don't know how MS stays in business.
> >
> > The os on this laptop, that I'm writing this email on, will be retired
> > soon for Alistair Izzard's big daddy roll of PCLOS 64bit. Thank you
> > very much Ali and to all.
> >
> > The OS is Ark Linux 2008. It's more than 10 years old and it has
> > served me well, great infact. It took 7 years to find a replacement.
> >
> > Any linux, even a bad one, is always better than the best windows
> > edition (or OSX but not to the same shocking degree).
> >
> >
> > Kate
> >
> >
> Very well said Kate. Theres a reason I don't allow a windows box to keep 
> its windows install more than a day or so, any longer and my patience 
> gets exchanged for a 16 lb maul to put its hard drive out of its misery.  
> Or a linux dvd gets put in along with a $40 60 gig SSD, getting a 
> machine thats obviously faster, and its by by windows, it has not been 
> good knowing you. Life for me at least, is not long enough to put up 
> with that crappy software.
> 
> FWIW, I ran PCLOS for a while, but if what you need is not in the repo, 
> forget about asking for it. Just a warning, but thats why I had to bail 
> to Debian. I can usually get what I need. They, like others are short of 
> man power, but I've not been told to go pound sand either.
> 
> Take care Kate.
> 
> >
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Hi Gene!

It's likely your problem with pclos was it was 32bit.
pclos doesn't support 32bit anymore, not for a long time.
I think since 2015 or 16.

I have me test machines, data recovery machines, laptops and server all 
running Ali's Big Daddy rolls. It works great.

The only thing I don't like and it happens TDE under any distro. It's the 
constant reloading of the gui when I install software. I don't understand why 
it does that. Bug?

Kate