On Sunday 03 February 2019 14:05:36 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
> On Sunday 03 February 2019 19.21:34 phiebie@... wrote:
> > Debian Buster, KDE 3.5.10. aptitude
> > As more and more software-updates clash with their dependencies against
> > what KDE needs or provides, I wanted to install trinity, preliminary
> > stable, alongside KDE. KDE should stay operational till I had
> > transferred my settings and programs aso to trinity.
> > No go!
> > Tdebase was fetched and seemingly installed, but when I restarted the
> > computer and wanted to start KDE, there was only a black screen with
> > the mouse-cursor and whatever I did with keyboard or mouse, nothing
> > happened. Cold reboot to clear memory, same thing.
> > Okay, let's then have a look at trinity. A blue screen with the logo
> > appeared and after a few seconds something like "no ..... available
> > check your installation"and I only could close that window via a warm
> > reboot. KDE gave me the black screen again and also TDE said
> > "check installation".
> > Installed TDE again, same results as before. Half an afternoon had
> > passed with no desktop still available.
> > Glad, that I had backupped my system before the experiment and could
> > restore my working KDE.
> > So there's also a clash between TDE and KDE, incredible!
> > Where should I look for the culprit for this disaster?
> > Kind regards.
>
> OK, so...
>
> a) You say Buster. Where did you install TDE from? What version? As far as
> I know, for Buster you need the premilinary builds.
>
> b) You say KDE 3.5.10. I seem to remember that install instructions said to
> purge any KDE 3.5 elements befor install. So yes, KDE 3.5 and TDE clash.
> It's known. I guess that's because thes share files with the same name, but
> different contents.
>
> If you want Trinity, you should better install on a system with no KDE, and
> running a testing TDE on a testing Debian, I'm not really surprised you
> encounter some problems.
>
> These are caused by your environment, not by Trinity itself.
>
> Thierry
>

Also I think that he might have better luck in trying Debian that is not quite 
so bleeding-edge as Buster; maybe Stretch or Jessie? 

FWIW, I am running Devuan Jessie with Trinity R14.0.6. Most of my issues have 
disappeared since switching to Devuan (and prying myself free of systemd). I 
recommend the netinstall disc, for me it worked better than their DVD. 

Unlike some others here, I do occasionally use the KDE desktop, as well as 
MATE, so I usually have them both installed, but rarely boot into them except 
for troubleshooting, or for certain features that I can't get to work in TDE 
(such as syncing my smartphone). But it is very rare nowadays that I ever go 
into those other desktops, and I could do without them except for once in a 
blue moon when nothing works right. 

Someday I hope to see TDE pre-installed on a Devuan disc (and not ExeGNU, 
which for me at least, doesn't work), but for now at least this setup works 
pretty well. 

Bill