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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [users] Making TDE aware of non-Trinity applications

From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 10:12:29 +0100
Anno domini 2019 Sun, 10 Mar 11:16:03 -0500
 J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
> On 2019-03-10 10:35:32 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 March 2019, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > 	Is there a way to make TDE aware of running non-Trinity applications so
> > > that they can be resurrected after Logout/Login?  I have at least one
> > > X11-based application (X2 - The Programmer's Editor) that I use
> > > extensively, and it would be nice if it could remember across
> > > Logout/Login events.
> > > 	I'm wondering if something like a DCOP wrapper might do the job?
> > >
> > > Leslie
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Load the application into your autostart dir.
> > /home/foo/.trinity/autostart
> > Also, check the program's setting to see if it has an autostart feature.
> >
> > Kate
> 
> 	Yes, that would work if I wanted it to start at every login, not just if it
> was running when I logged out...
> 
> Leslie

Once upon a time there was a little kingdom where all applications held the X11 standards high and the grand master of session management called xsm ruled the desktop. In that long forsaken world evil crept in in the form of timy little gnomes that insisted the old standard was outdated and a new standard needed to be praised. These followers of freedesktop.org brought the gnome session manager with them, and it did no good. Then there came the merceneries and refugies from the world of funny icons and they brought with them the not-invented-here session management. Nowadays the world is devided into different religions of session management, some doing good (TDE), some falling flat on their belly and calling it progress, but non talking to one another 'cause that's deemed to be heresy.

In other words: most gnome applications do not have any sense of session management compareable to tde. Most old X11 applications do work with xsm - at least you can query them for their state and get the required arguments to restore the state. Virtually any java application does not know what session management is all about. Firefox et al. do some kind of session management on their own, which in most cases does not work. Now you can choose ... pestilence, colera, ebola or pocks :-(

Nik


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