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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [users] Making TDE aware of non-Trinity applications

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2019 07:53:09 -0400
On Monday 11 March 2019 05:12:29 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:

> Anno domini 2019 Sun, 10 Mar 11:16:03 -0500
>
>  J Leslie Turriff scripsit:
> > On 2019-03-10 10:35:32 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > > On Sunday 10 March 2019, J Leslie Turriff wrote:
> > > > 	Is there a way to make TDE aware of running non-Trinity
> > > > applications so that they can be resurrected after Logout/Login?
> > > >  I have at least one X11-based application (X2 - The
> > > > Programmer's Editor) that I use extensively, and it would be
> > > > nice if it could remember across Logout/Login events.
> > > > 	I'm wondering if something like a DCOP wrapper might do the
> > > > job?
> > > >
> > > > Leslie
> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >-----
> > >
> > > Load the application into your autostart dir.
> > > /home/foo/.trinity/autostart
> > > Also, check the program's setting to see if it has an autostart
> > > feature.
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > 	Yes, that would work if I wanted it to start at every login, not
> > just if it was running when I logged out...
> >
> > Leslie
>
> Once upon a time there was a little kingdom where all applications
> held the X11 standards high and the grand master of session management
> called xsm ruled the desktop. In that long forsaken world evil crept
> in in the form of timy little gnomes that insisted the old standard
> was outdated and a new standard needed to be praised. These followers
> of freedesktop.org brought the gnome session manager with them, and it
> did no good. Then there came the merceneries and refugies from the
> world of funny icons and they brought with them the not-invented-here
> session management. Nowadays the world is devided into different
> religions of session management, some doing good (TDE), some falling
> flat on their belly and calling it progress, but non talking to one
> another 'cause that's deemed to be heresy.
>
> In other words: most gnome applications do not have any sense of
> session management compareable to tde. Most old X11 applications do
> work with xsm - at least you can query them for their state and get
> the required arguments to restore the state. Virtually any java
> application does not know what session management is all about.
> Firefox et al. do some kind of session management on their own, which
> in most cases does not work. Now you can choose ... pestilence,
> cholera, ebola or pocks :-(
>
> Nik

Nicely put, Nik.  And too close to the truth.  Way too close.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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