On Sunday 31 March 2019 15:07:01 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Sunday 31 March 2019 13:32:58 William Morder wrote:
> > On Sunday 31 March 2019 09:26:27 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > I just stopped it, reinstalled everything kmail related in a
> > > synaptic search, and restarted it from the tde menu. It immediately
> > > reported two bad indices, for folders emc and spam-hold, and took 32
> > > minutes to scan those 2 folders and open its gui.
> > >
> > > I own as gene:gene with perms from 600 to 644 in the /home/gene/Mail
> > > subdir. It is NOT updating now for 4 days, the files
> > > in /home/gene/Mail/emc/cur to indicate read or important by
> > > appending the
> > > ':2,S' or ':2,RS' but it is generating new indices, 2 of them
> > > everytime it tries to scan that folder, so it CAN create/write to
> > > that folder.
> > >
> > > There are around 60100 messages in that folder, and the indice files
> > > are drwxr-xr-x   5 gene gene     4096 Mar 31 12:08 emc
> > > -rw-------   1 gene gene 44551163 Mar 31 12:08 .emc.index
> > > -rw-r--r--   1 gene gene   240389 Mar 31 12:08 .emc.index.ids
> > >
> > > These 2 files have been nuked to see if a rebuild fixes it, no.
> > > And now everthing kmail, about 8 packages, has been re-installed
> > > from the local archive since the mirror is missing now for several
> > > days.
> > >
> > > Is there a fix?  Or can it be fixed short of installing a stretch
> > > netinstall on a new drive?
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > You mention Stretch. Is that what you are running now? (or perhaps
> > ascii, since you mention netinstall?) I seem to recall that you were
> > still running Wheezy.
>
> I am, but I've also been collecting iso's.
>
> > I bring up this question because I haven't been able to upgrade to
> > stretch/ascii for similar reasons, but am still stuck with jessie. It
> > runs great now (after a long process of pruning, tweaking, grooming
> > and other fiddling round); but when I try to upgrade to stretch/ascii,
> > it's always these same few problems that prevent my continuing, and
> > Kmail is one of the big problems.
> >
> > When I boot up now (in Devuan Jessie), I get an error window about
> > rebuilding indices, etc. (which, I admit, bothers me); but then, I
> > click on a button to rebuild, and it's done quickly and painlessly, so
> > it doesn't bother me enough to worry, cuz I gots all my emails and
> > that's what matters for NOW. But later ... when at last I am forced to
> > upgrade ... ? In stretch/ascii, though, I don't even have this option;
> > I just don't have a working Kmail.
> >
> > My other issue is with wireless networking, which is unavailable to me
> > in ascii/stretch, due to some renaming of the wifi interface (or a
> > deeper issue, perhaps) from wlan0 (in jessie) to wlx00027288d1fd (in
> > stretch/ascii). This is probably an issue unrelated to Kmail, but
> > maybe not? Also, I cannot tell if it is a problem only with TDE, or is
> > more an issue with Devuan, or the Ascii release.
> >
> > In any case, I would like someday to upgrade to Devuan Ascii, and
> > maybe go even farther, to Buster, etc. So I want to solve these
> > problems now, so that later I won't be lost in the wilderness without
> > a working computer.
> >
> > Bill
>
> I've been dreading the upgrade because the one machine I did put stretch
> on took me about a month to figure out how to make it apply a route
> statement.
>
> Then of course theres all the paranoia to deal with just trying to make
> an ssh login work.  What the hell is it with these people that makes
> them want to destroy your ability to use your local network from a comfy
> chair anyway?  Its BS is what it is.
>
> I am not in the least worried about outside hackers as theres a copy of
> dd-wrt between all my stuff and the black hatters.  In 15 years I've had
> one person come thru that, and I had to give him the addresses and
> passwords because I needed networking help, about 10 years ago.
>
> But the time is coming when at least this machine will need to be
> updated, hopefully to buster, so I don't have to do it again next month.
>
> Whats the kmail problem in jessie? or stretch?
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

I am running Devuan Jessie now (though I want to put Ascii ]= Stretch] on a 
laptop, and network them; then maybe do a leapfrog on my desktop, and be able 
to upgrade to Devuan Beowulf [= Buster]. 

My Kmail indices need to be re-something every time I boot up, but since it's 
still usable, and I have bigger fish to fry, I've been putting it off. Can't 
put off for ever, though. Time waits for no one. 

Bill