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Re: [trinity-users] Problems with TDEsu

From: "William Morder via trinity-users" <trinity-users@...>
Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 21:17:21 -0700

On Thursday 25 July 2019 20:40:45 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 25 July 2019 16:17:27 Mike Bird wrote:
> > On Thu July 25 2019 10:51:52 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > gene@coyote:/etc/cron.daily$ tdesudo synaptic
> > > tdesudo: error while loading shared libraries: libtdecore.so.14:
> > > cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
> >
> > Hi Gene,
> >
> > I have no idea how you can have TDE installed and running without
> > one of the most important TDE libraries.  Perhaps a path problem.
>
> No, well not intentional. Its looking, or trying to,
> at /opt/trinity/lib64 but there's only a lib dir. Maybe this explains
> other stuff thats wonky too.  Like my index problems with kmail a couple
> months back, etc etc.
>
> This was a 32 bit install until I updated to stretch for amd64 on this
> machine.
>
> So how do I convert an uptodate r14 install from 32 bit to 64 bit?
>
> here's the trinity.list
> # Trinity repositories
> deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-r14.0.0/debian/
> stretch main
> deb
> http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/trinity-builddeps-r14.0.0/debi
>an/ stretch main
>
> So I don't see an amd64 spec.
>
> > Meanwhile have you considered setting a root password?  Requiring
> > a key instead of a password for ssh root login makes sense.  And
> > requiring sudo on systems with multiple admins with different
> > privilege levels makes sense.  But I don't see why you are making
> > things hard for yourself on your systems but not having a root
> > password.
>
> 1. I'm the only active, warm blooded user 1000.  There are of course
> other "users" but most of that is just sandboxing.
>
> And 2, debian has never been real fond of pw's for root.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

I'm with Gene on part 1 of this question: no root password for a single user 
system. I don't see any real purpose in making oneself log in as root to 
perform administrative tasks; it is enough to use sudo or su, so long as the 
admin is the only user, and the password is very secure. (If somebody wants 
to take 20 million years to brute-force my password, go right ahead, as it 
isn't written down anywhere, and it is really long, and has lots of messy 
characters. Oh, and I also alternate among 4 different complex passwords.) Of 
course, quantum computers will change all this, but maybe by then we'll also 
have some kind of comparable quantum encryption. 

However, part 2: tdesu is very useful for getting things done; and it never 
makes me log in as root. To do that, you have to set up your system for root 
logins, so it seems to me that you must have done this either on the original 
installation (one of the questions asked by the installer), or maybe you did 
it under the Trinity Control Center: 

TCC / System Administration / Login Manager / Convenience / Miscellaneous / 
Allow Root Login 

I never clicked that box, but maybe Gene did. 

Bill