On Friday 06 December 2019 14:15:34 Michael wrote:
> On Friday 06 December 2019 03:37:59 pm William Morder via trinity-users 
wrote:
> > On Friday 06 December 2019 13:30:17 D. R. Evans wrote:
> > > D. R. Evans wrote on 12/6/19 10:54 AM:
> > > > I just installed TDE on a new-to-me system running debian stable
> > > > (buster).
> > > >
> > > > All the initial system installation was done from a live CD, and it
> > > > installed KDE. That installed version of KDE works as well as KDE
> > > > ever works these days. In particular, though, the screen looks fine
> > > > (1920x1200) and everything works as expected.
> > > >
> > > > In the newly-installed TDE, though, the desktop flickers wildly and
> > > > the desktop is simply unusable: input is lost during the flickers, so
> > > > most keyboard/mouse input is not even seen by the desktop.
> > > >
> > > > Where should I look to try to eliminate all the flickering so that I
> > > > can get a usable TDE?
> > >
> > > More info:
> > >
> > > The background doesn't flicker at all. What is flickering are the panel
> > > and the default icons on the desktop, many times a second.
> > >
> > > If I succeed in bringing up the TDE menu (which, if I click enough
> > > times, eventually does appear when I succeed in timing a click at a
> > > moment when the desktop is accepting input), then the flickering stops
> > > for as long as the menu is visible.
> > >
> > > Really hoping for some helpful suggestions. I really, really, really,
> > > don't want to give up and use KDE5.
> > >
> > >   Doc
> >
> > I found that I had problems upgrading to Buster / Ascii. However, my
> > recommendation is maybe not a "fix", but a better workaround. I would
> > suggest using a different desktop (such as MATE) for you other desktop
> > choice.
> >
> > When I install Devuan, I use the netinstall CD, and MATE is one of the
> > choices. I find that it works better than KDE5 when running beside TDE.
> > It took me months and months of tweaking to get KDE5 to behave itself
> > enough to make my system work.
> >
> > After I install the base system, I reboot into MATE, then add Open Office
> > (instead of LibreOffice), and usually reboot again, then install TDE, and
> > everything has been working almost with few problems for nearly a year;
> > especially the past 6 months have seen only a few minor bugs. No such
> > luck with KDE5.
>
> I've found that not installing any desktop during initial installation is
> my preferred choice.
>
> I generally make several bash scripts to do the TDE installation and other
> initial housekeeping and stick those on a USB stick and use those after
> first boot.  Attaching them for convenience, modify as you desire.
>
> Best,
> Michael
> PS: aud?, aup?, yes I'm that lazy... (actually I can't type...)

We'll be testing these scripts of yours whenever next I reinstall my system. 
If it eliminates the need to install the MATE desktop, then you definitely 
will be owed props from everybody. 

Bill