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Re: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] kmail forever indexing is back

From: "William Morder via trinity-users" <trinity-users@...>
Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2019 21:27:53 -0800

On Friday 13 December 2019 19:49:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Friday 13 December 2019 16:05:18 William Morder via trinity-users
>
> wrote:
> > On Friday 13 December 2019 11:52:09 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > Greetings all;
> > >
> > > So I picked the largest cur dirs, and using mc have moved about 2
> > > years worth of each to an outside of the ~/Mail view of kmail.  And
> > > nuked those index files, so it has to rebuild them. Its not done
> > > with that yet, but we'll see.  Damn this is getting old.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > The complete corpus of my Kmail (including nearly 20 years of archives
> > like yourself) is only about 4.5 gb, and my machine is built out of
> > spare parts, most of which are older than Utnapishtim's Flood. And
> > while my machine is a little slow sometimes, I never experience
> > anything like you keep describing.
>
> I started a year ago with over 12GB but my moving of older stuff out of
> the Mail directory has now reduced the "du -h Mail" to about 4.8GB. I've
> stopped kmail 4 or 5 times, but on the restart, and that nearly always
> crashes once, but before it crashes, maybe 3 seconds elapsed, it has
> pulled all the "index" files out of cache someplace I haven't found.  So
> I nuked ALL the index files 3 times.  Then it crashed about 2-3 seconds
> after startup each time.
>
> A 4th or 5th restart has not crashed, and it updated the dates on ALL
> index files twice, then has shut that off again. The largest remaining
> directory  now is "sent-mail" and its way bigger than any of the rest by
> a factor of at least 2.  So momentarily, its behaving itself. 2 hours? a
> week, a year, the rapture? who knows???
>
> Its a bit like asking, while concrete is being poured, if it will crack?
> Wrong question, not if, its when, if properly formed as a question. :)
>
> > I hope to get myself an SSD to install as my home directory, which
> > ought to speed things up for me, at least.
>
> Haveing done that to the boot drive in one of my milling machines, I can
> testify that an old pentium powered Dell, pulling from the sata SSD, is
> a good 10x faster than when it was loading from spinning rust.  Amazing.
>
> > It is a problem of diminishing returns: you want to have those
> > archives available somewhere, to find information that you saved, but
> > now the size of those archives is making Kmail unusable. So I would
> > say, keep pruning until it stops misbehaving. You will still have
> > those old emails available, so long as they are removed to where Kmail
> > won't look. They can always be retrieved if you really need them.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Take care Bill.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett

Stupid question: Do you compact email folders? or does Kmail do that for you 
automatically every so periodically often? Mine is a little of both; if Kmail 
doesn't do it, then I compact them manually. 

Bill