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Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] kmail forever indexing is back

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 01:38:27 -0500
On Saturday 14 December 2019 00:27:53 William Morder via trinity-users 
wrote:

> On Friday 13 December 2019 19:49:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > On Friday 13 December 2019 16:05:18 William Morder via trinity-users
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Friday 13 December 2019 11:52:09 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > Greetings all;
> > > >
> > > > So I picked the largest cur dirs, and using mc have moved about
> > > > 2 years worth of each to an outside of the ~/Mail view of kmail.
> > > >  And nuked those index files, so it has to rebuild them. Its not
> > > > done with that yet, but we'll see.  Damn this is getting old.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > >
> > > The complete corpus of my Kmail (including nearly 20 years of
> > > archives like yourself) is only about 4.5 gb, and my machine is
> > > built out of spare parts, most of which are older than
> > > Utnapishtim's Flood. And while my machine is a little slow
> > > sometimes, I never experience anything like you keep describing.
> >
> > I started a year ago with over 12GB but my moving of older stuff out
> > of the Mail directory has now reduced the "du -h Mail" to about
> > 4.8GB. I've stopped kmail 4 or 5 times, but on the restart, and that
> > nearly always crashes once, but before it crashes, maybe 3 seconds
> > elapsed, it has pulled all the "index" files out of cache someplace
> > I haven't found.  So I nuked ALL the index files 3 times.  Then it
> > crashed about 2-3 seconds after startup each time.
> >
> > A 4th or 5th restart has not crashed, and it updated the dates on
> > ALL index files twice, then has shut that off again. The largest
> > remaining directory  now is "sent-mail" and its way bigger than any
> > of the rest by a factor of at least 2.  So momentarily, its behaving
> > itself. 2 hours? a week, a year, the rapture? who knows???
> >
> > Its a bit like asking, while concrete is being poured, if it will
> > crack? Wrong question, not if, its when, if properly formed as a
> > question. :)
> >
> > > I hope to get myself an SSD to install as my home directory, which
> > > ought to speed things up for me, at least.
> >
> > Haveing done that to the boot drive in one of my milling machines, I
> > can testify that an old pentium powered Dell, pulling from the sata
> > SSD, is a good 10x faster than when it was loading from spinning
> > rust.  Amazing.
> >
> > > It is a problem of diminishing returns: you want to have those
> > > archives available somewhere, to find information that you saved,
> > > but now the size of those archives is making Kmail unusable. So I
> > > would say, keep pruning until it stops misbehaving. You will still
> > > have those old emails available, so long as they are removed to
> > > where Kmail won't look. They can always be retrieved if you really
> > > need them.
> > >
> > > Bill
> >
> > Take care Bill.
> >
> > Cheers, Gene Heskett
>
> Stupid question: Do you compact email folders? or does Kmail do that
> for you automatically every so periodically often? Mine is a little of
> both; if Kmail doesn't do it, then I compact them manually.
>
> Bill
>
kmail does, I don't as a general rule. I'll see if I can do that, it 
might just shrink the index files.

Thanks Bill.

Cheers, Gene Heskett
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