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Re: [BULK] [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] Re: [BULK] Re: [trinity-users] kmail forever indexing is back

From: Gene Heskett <gheskett@...>
Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2019 01:47:01 -0500
On Saturday 14 December 2019 01:38:27 Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Saturday 14 December 2019 00:27:53 William Morder via trinity-users
>
> wrote:
> > On Friday 13 December 2019 19:49:35 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 13 December 2019 16:05:18 William Morder via
> > > trinity-users
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Friday 13 December 2019 11:52:09 Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > > Greetings all;
> > > > >
> > > > > So I picked the largest cur dirs, and using mc have moved
> > > > > about 2 years worth of each to an outside of the ~/Mail view
> > > > > of kmail. And nuked those index files, so it has to rebuild
> > > > > them. Its not done with that yet, but we'll see.  Damn this is
> > > > > getting old.
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> > > >
> > > > The complete corpus of my Kmail (including nearly 20 years of
> > > > archives like yourself) is only about 4.5 gb, and my machine is
> > > > built out of spare parts, most of which are older than
> > > > Utnapishtim's Flood. And while my machine is a little slow
> > > > sometimes, I never experience anything like you keep describing.
> > >
> > > I started a year ago with over 12GB but my moving of older stuff
> > > out of the Mail directory has now reduced the "du -h Mail" to
> > > about 4.8GB. I've stopped kmail 4 or 5 times, but on the restart,
> > > and that nearly always crashes once, but before it crashes, maybe
> > > 3 seconds elapsed, it has pulled all the "index" files out of
> > > cache someplace I haven't found.  So I nuked ALL the index files 3
> > > times.  Then it crashed about 2-3 seconds after startup each time.
> > >
> > > A 4th or 5th restart has not crashed, and it updated the dates on
> > > ALL index files twice, then has shut that off again. The largest
> > > remaining directory  now is "sent-mail" and its way bigger than
> > > any of the rest by a factor of at least 2.  So momentarily, its
> > > behaving itself. 2 hours? a week, a year, the rapture? who
> > > knows???
> > >
> > > Its a bit like asking, while concrete is being poured, if it will
> > > crack? Wrong question, not if, its when, if properly formed as a
> > > question. :)
> > >
> > > > I hope to get myself an SSD to install as my home directory,
> > > > which ought to speed things up for me, at least.
> > >
> > > Haveing done that to the boot drive in one of my milling machines,
> > > I can testify that an old pentium powered Dell, pulling from the
> > > sata SSD, is a good 10x faster than when it was loading from
> > > spinning rust.  Amazing.
> > >
> > > > It is a problem of diminishing returns: you want to have those
> > > > archives available somewhere, to find information that you
> > > > saved, but now the size of those archives is making Kmail
> > > > unusable. So I would say, keep pruning until it stops
> > > > misbehaving. You will still have those old emails available, so
> > > > long as they are removed to where Kmail won't look. They can
> > > > always be retrieved if you really need them.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > Take care Bill.
> > >
> > > Cheers, Gene Heskett
> >
> > Stupid question: Do you compact email folders? or does Kmail do that
> > for you automatically every so periodically often? Mine is a little
> > of both; if Kmail doesn't do it, then I compact them manually.
> >
> > Bill
>
> kmail does, I don't as a general rule. I'll see if I can do that, it
> might just shrink the index files.
>
No noticeable diff, whole maryann is still 4.8GB

Thanks Bill.
>
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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