FYI, I have been using TDE 3.5.13 nightlies in Virtualbox, Debian Squeeze host, it was working great, I decided to upgrade my workstation, TDE 3.5.12 to 3.5.13, Debian Squeeze from the nightlies server. Failed miserably. the upgrade/install went without a hitch, but upon starting, KDM-Trinity would crash. Never got a login scren. Removing desktop-base-trinity made it possible to get a login screen. Logging in I get an error 'kdeinit failed to start' so no TDE apps worked. I run dual monitors and after the upgrade only one monitor would work. I have a custom xorg.conf file that has been working for several releases of Debian, it seems TDE 3.5.13 handlles X differently than 3.5.12. All in all the most trouble I have ever had on a Debian box. I purged 3.5.13 and re-installed 3.5.12. In my case, I got the wrong impression from the virtualbox install. Peace, Greg