trinity-users@lists.pearsoncomputing.net

Message: previous - next
Month: April 2020

Re: [quite OT] [but important] TDE shirts

From: deloptes <deloptes@...>
Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 13:04:09 +0200
Sl�vek Banko wrote:

> Hi Nik, all,
> 
> I dare to disagree with a number of opinions.
> 
> Tim founded the project, Tim was its leader, Tim agreed to hand over the
> role of project leader. As far as I know, there is no registered trademark
> for which Tim would be its holder. Therefore, I believe that there is no
> reason to claim that only Tim is the legal holder for project. Tim, as an
> ordinary natural person, handed over the role of project leader, so I
> don't find a reason to call it a fork.
> 
> Similar to your opinion that only Tim is legal to accept donations. Tim is
> only a natural person and so far he accepts donations as a natural person
> on some of his account. He is not an organization. He is the founder of
> the project. A project for which other natural persons have taken
> responsibility for its continuation.
> 
> I do not agree that the only way for a TDE project to accept donations and
> manage funds is to create our own organization. Obviously, there are at
> least two possible variants:
> 
> 1. Create our own organization and take responsibility for all legal
> matters relating to the status of the organization.
> 
> 2. Leave the project as a team and use a fiscal host. This is the same
> principle as projects associated with organizations such as the Freedom
> Software Conservancy, the Apache Foundation, the Linux Foundation and also
> Open Collective.
> 
> As I see in the comments from others involved in the discussion, for the
> creation of our own organization, some claim that it is quite simple,
> others claim that there are many problem points - the choice of continent,
> country, state, legislation,... so a lot of problems. Do you really want
> to deal with that? In addition, do you really want to deal with the fact
> that it will then be necessary to monitor changes in the legislation of a
> selected country so that the organization does not neglect any new
> regulations of the law? Who would want to do that?
> 
> Because it is important for us to work on a project and not to deal with
> legal matters, bookkeeping, and so on, the option with a fiscal host seems
> to me to be definitely more advantageous.


Hi Slavek,
I understand the people here are discussing just in theory what could be
doable, where, how and when. It looks like many people care about TDE and
it might be the concern they have about the future of TDE.

I let you explain if you wish how the future looks like, but may be (I have
not looked at the TDE page) there are all the details explained (if not it
is worth putting it down). I tend to remember that replacement of Tim was
publicly announced.

On the other hand I was looking with some friends into the regulations
regarding NGOs in Austria fiew years ago, and they are really appealing. It
is almost no cost and offers benefits if you want to get funds, do charity
or support an idea.

Originally the thread was about T-shirts and pollos and they started looking
into how such things (for example your favorite coffee mug) can be sold and
support TDE. This is not a bad idea at all, if someone wants to do the
administrative part.

For example it can be that Nic takes the responsibility to do the paper work
in Austria and someone else (Thiery) organizes the shirts and whatever.

I think it should be clear, that nither you nor whoever from the developers
and the people working on the project can and want to spend time on such
activities.

In any case it is interesting to read.