On Tuesday 26 May 2020 23:36:10 Michele Calgaro via trinity-users wrote: > > Running Devuan Ascii here, and I use Slavek's repository, with r14.09 and > > some r14.08 packages. This repository generally works best for me. > > Ok, we refer to it as Slavek's PSB :-) Thanks for the correction. I have added a note to my sources.list so that I remember to refer to it as such. > In that case you will need to find out what is modifying that file back to > kde-* each time, because normally it shouldn' t. > Cheers > Michele > So, I have a new detail to report. I rebooted my system, but before I did, I checked those files: /home/<USER>/.config/menus/applications-tdemenuedit /var/tmp/tdecache-<USER>/r14-xdg-update-validation-test9.txt And everything seemed correct (that is, there were no kde items). In the first file, the menu list, tde was in the <include> category, and kde was among the <exclude> items. When I rebooted, I checked again, and everything had been changed back to kde in the second file (r14-xdg), and I got those same 3 error messages again. I did, however, find a separate menu for both gnome and kde. Earlier (before a previous reboot) I had tried removing a kde menu, and the system rebooted about the same as usual, but when I got up and running, my konqueror and kedit were both all messed up. (* I set them to start up when the system boots, because I use them both to organize my work; but this is too complicated to explain. Enough to say, I have been doing it like this since early KDE3 days, about 2006 or so, and it has always worked great, and I don't want to change....) Out of these known factors, I would suppose that something overwrites this file with kde krap between shutdown and boot, but I don't have a clue how to go about searching for the culprit. All KDE and Gnome stuff have been removed; everything is TDE, except for a few pan-Linux applications, but these do not bring in any KDE or Gnome dependencies, and should not affect the desktop; or so I like to think. Any further observations or suggestions, how I my track down the cause of these changes? Thanks for any help! Bill