On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:42:21 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > On Monday 22 June 2020 23:27:29 Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 23 June 2020 02:09:04 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > On Tuesday 23 June 2020 01:47:00 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 15:28:17 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 13:56:08 William Morder via > > > > > trinity-users > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 10:33:02 Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 12:50:51 William Morder via > > > > > > > trinity-users > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 07:11:52 Michael wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 08:35:19 am Gene Heskett wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Monday 22 June 2020 09:22:47 Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe what works for me would work for you to > > > > > > > > > > > enable watching a video. I set all three power > > > > > > > > > > > save options in desktop settings to 120 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have tried that, up to 4000 4025 4050 minutes. > > > > > > > > > > Nominally 5 minutes later it powers down, and an > > > > > > > > > > xset -q shows: DPMS (Energy Star): > > > > > > > > > > Standby: 450 Suspend: 600 Off: 900 > > > > > > > > > > DPMS is Enabled > > > > > > > > > > Monitor is On > > > > > > > > > > And theres not a thing I can do about it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something else to try depends on a config file in > > > > > > > > > > > which to put it, either in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or a > > > > > > > > > > > file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, included in Section > > > > > > > > > > > "Monitor": > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Option "DPMS" "off" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Longshot, but try creating a new user? That'd at > > > > > > > > > least isolate if it's a config file or a system issue? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There's a tiny blue rectangle (almost a square) in the > > > > > > > > system tray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not there. > > > > > > > > > > > > I had to look up the name, because I've just had it sitting > > > > > > there for years; once configured, I usually don't touch > > > > > > stuff. > > > > > > > > > > > > So it's called the "Resize and Rotate System Tray App". (See > > > > > > attachment for screenshot.) I clicked on help or about to > > > > > > find out the name. > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe you need to install it, or just find it. I forget how > > > > > > it is that it found a home in my system tray, but it's a > > > > > > KDE3/TDE app. > > > > > > > > > > > > I *believe* that it may be part of another package, perhaps > > > > > > tdepowersave-trinity? In any case, I ran "apt-cache search" > > > > > > with the terms "tray", "power", "resize" and "rotate", and > > > > > > that is the only TDE app that seemed to fit all the search > > > > > > terms. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right-click, look for "configure displays", then go to > > > > > > > > the tab labelled "power management": unclick the box > > > > > > > > that says "enable DPMS power save modes"; or you can > > > > > > > > configure power saving to something that suits you > > > > > > > > better. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (For a desktop I find that power saving is useless or > > > > > > > > even counterproductive, so I just switch off the monitor > > > > > > > > instead when not in use. On a laptop, or in a setting > > > > > > > > where one wants the screen to lock when unattended, this > > > > > > > > is a different matter, but I imagine it's just Gene > > > > > > > > hanging out at home.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Keyrect. With the missus in the shop, end stage COPD, I > > > > > > > don't have a cat to walk on keys. Just me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, VLC allows turning off power saving while actively > > > > > > > > watching a video; I don't know, but I imagine other > > > > > > > > media players do something similar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > Found it, very dark blue, looks black at first glance. Had to > > > > > get root, and then disabled dpms. So now we test for the > > > > > umptieth time. Same failure to 'get' gamma on the apply, and > > > > > that apparently generates the error, so I had to manually > > > > > accept the new settings. But that error popup is behind its > > > > > window so the only error warning is the audio whomp. > > > > > > > > > > IT S/B ON TOP OF THE XRANDR WINDOW!!!! No one can see it when > > > > > it pops up behind the xrandr window. > > > > > > > > > > That needs fixed as its zero help but locks out every other > > > > > action except the timeout/reject, so unless you grab the bar > > > > > of its window and move it off center so you can see the error > > > > > message. Otherwise if the sound is turned down/off, you've no > > > > > visual clue its there. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bill. > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > > > And it had no effect, xset still shows and does its thing at its > > > > usual 450 seconds. So frustration reigns supreme. What the hell > > > > is reseting it? > > > > > > I have now turned off global display control. I'll click send on > > > thje next minute > > > > Its now stayed up for ten minutes. So Its apparently stopped, but > > only by disabling all tde display & monitor controls, if its > > enabled, it will powerdown the monitor in 7.5 minutes regardless of > > any settings otherwise, and if you look at it with an xset -q, its > > been reset to whatever something else thinks it should be. 450 > > seconds or 7.5 minutes. > > > > This is the same stuff usually found on the ground behind the male > > of the bovine specie. > > Stinks just as bad, no matter what the gender of the dumb brute > described. Likewise for the end-product of the equine family. They all > stink. > > Bill Maybe Bill, but you've obviously never smelt a 40 acre feedlot with 200 head of beef on it on a -20F morning in February '44. You can't even see thru it. With 2 perches that totalled 4300 lbs in the other side of the barn, there was no comparison, the equines were tolerable. Raised in Iowa farming country, I'm quite familiar with both. And I've forked plenty of the output of both from the barn to the spreader. Those 2 perches could do more in a days time in terms of tons moved than the best of the case tractors we also had. I was plowing the west 80, with a case LA w/4 16" bottoms on the plow, a field which had a windmill fed watering tank in the middle of it and got too close to the tank and buried it all in the mud. Daddy swore, whistled up that pair of perches, made a new 2x12 oak double-tree, and hooked them to that tractor with about 80 ft of 1/2" log chain so they'd be on solid ground. Daddy knew horses,and never abused them so they'd do whatever he asked. I pulled the hitch pin to leave the plow, Daddy went tsk tsk, the middle of that chain came up in the air, and that 8,000 lb tractor was back on dryer land shortly, gave then some sugar cubes, time to blow, and went back after the plow. Those perches dug two ditches deep enough to drag their bellies, but they got the job done. Yet they were gentle enough a 10 yo boy could ride either bare backed. We had saddles and a riding horse too, but no saddles that could be thrown onto those 2. Gentle Giants. I remember them well 75 years later. > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > > > Cheers, Gene Heskett > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-users-unsubscribe@... For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@... Read > list messages on the web archive: > http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to > top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. - Louis D. Brandeis Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene>