On Thu, 16 Jul 2020, Gerhard Zintel wrote: > On 16/07/2020 16:02, Lou Gogan wrote: >> You could install/use the character selector program as a temp measure > > On console / terminal?! No graphics available for Felmon. > > G yeah, that's the problem. however I got my '|'! I've booted to MX, specifically MX-19.2_ahs_x64.iso. it crashes out of the DE to the command line or rather stalls on F7 but you get a command line at F1. the alt-gr+> trick works! I think it's detected wi-fi! iwconfig yields some output for wlan0. ah, 'nmcli device wifi list' shows various SSIDs! 'inxi -G' doesn't say much. so that's brought me far. in principle I could install a command-line only system. not sure how much more I want to struggle but maybe I can get a DE working. f. -- Felmon Davis Verbum sat sapienti.