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Re: [trinity-users] questions about upgrade to Beowulf/Buster - correction

From: Slávek Banko <slavek.banko@...>
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 2020 14:59:07 +0200
On Thursday 27 of August 2020 17:52:16 Sl�vek Banko wrote:
> On Thursday 27 of August 2020 17:13:46 William Morder via trinity-users
>
> wrote:
> > On Thursday 27 August 2020 08:05:17 Sl�vek Banko wrote:
> > > On Thursday 27 of August 2020 16:40:40 William Morder via
> > > trinity-users
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > > > Okay guys, so I am stumped and confuzzled.
> > > >
> > > > I just did an upgrade to Devuan Beowulf (= Debian Buster), and
> > > > everything went fine; except once up and running, I couldn't
> > > > download more than a few of Trinity's packages.
> > > >
> > > > After trying different repositories, and playing with my sources
> > > > list, I managed to do just a bit better, then I saved the day with
> > > > some extreme voodoo using about config [*I meant to say, apt-get*
> > > > ... writing on auto-pilot] (scrolling through the manpages to find
> > > > something that work). I ended up getting enough the Trinity
> > > > packages to download by using --ignore-hold and dselect-upgrade
> > > > options. I even searched out the links to deb packages on the
> > > > developers' repositories, and downloaded them with wget, so that I
> > > > could try forcing install using dpkg.
> > > >
> > > > Now at least (at last) I do have a working system which is a
> > > > reasonable facsimile of my previous one, but it does seem like it
> > > > ought to have been easier. For about the past three days now, I've
> > > > lived in the command-line.
> > > >
> > > > Also I would like recommendations for a firewall that displays
> > > > active connections and rules, etc., like the old Firestarter used
> > > > to do. I catch all kinds of problems by noticing activity on my
> > > > firewall, but now I cannot seem to find one that displays active
> > > > connections, and Firestarter can no longer be hacked to make it
> > > > work on a newer system.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for any advice or comments,
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > Hi Bill,
> > >
> > > what problems do you observe? Do packages report incorrect size /
> > > checksum after download? Or do you get a 404 response? Or something
> > > else?
> > >
> > > Lately, I've been seeing more often that probably due to a
> > > malfunctioning transparent proxy somewhere at the provider, I'm
> > > getting corrupted and apt lists or damaged packages. And I have to
> > > download them repeatedly and repeatedly and... For such cases, it
> > > usually helps me to set up apt to know that the broken proxy is in
> > > the way:
> > >
> > > Acquire::http::Pipeline-Depth "0";
> > > Acquire::http::No-Cache=True;
> > > Acquire::BrokenProxy=true;
> > >
> > > Cheers
> >
> > Ordinarily I would always use a proxy -- and have no problems at all
> > -- but tork-trinity, tor, etc., are some of the packages that will not
> > download.
> >
> > The packages are listed when I do apt-cache search, etc., but then
> > when I tried to download, it would ask for dependencies that seemed
> > like they were for Bullseye. So then I tried using Sid, Bullseye,
> > unstable, etc., but finally went back to vanilla Devuan Beowulf, and
> > Buster for the Trinity repositories. When I ran Jessie, I would always
> > use your PSB repo, and now I also have tried PTB repo, but it kept
> > saying I needed 11.0 Buster packages. So I went back to the Trinity
> > ppa repo (I believe it's Tim's or a mirror thereof), along with
> > vanilla Devuan (pkgmaster, etc.), and then I played with dpkg and
> > apt-get as already described.
> >
> > Now it's working, but I still have problems finding or downloading
> > packages, even though I see them listed.
> >
> > Bill
>
> I remember seeing package availability issues when I wanted to prepare
> build-root for Devuan Chimaera. There were exclusively Devuan apt
> sources and for me it seemed that there was some broken state of the
> merge process of the Debian + Devuan packages on Devuan side. I didn't
> try to examine it in more detail - I didn't want to waste time - and I
> put it off until later.
>
> Cheers

Now I took a closer look at the problem on my builder and found that this 
is not a problem on the Devuan side. On the builder I use squid-deb-proxy 
and there are listed servers from which the download of packages is 
allowed. Devuan uses the Debian redirector for Debian packages, as a 
result there are attempts to download packages from servers that are not 
allowed in the squid-deb-proxy. That's why it doesn't work properly on my 
builder. So this is a different problem than you observe.

Cheers
-- 
Sl�vek

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