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Re: [trinity-users] Beowulf/Buster upgrade - sudoers list - password problems

From: "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp" <office@...>
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 2020 13:04:55 +0200
Anno domini 2020 Sat, 29 Aug 01:28:56 -0700
 William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> 
> On Saturday 29 August 2020 01:10:15 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > Hi Bill!
> >
> > Anno domini 2020 Fri, 28 Aug 17:06:31 -0700
> >
> >  William Morder via trinity-users scripsit:
> > > Okay, so a new thread, as things have changed and progressed somewhat,
> > > but now I have new problems.
> > >
> > > I got my system restored *almost* to how I want it, but some things have
> > > changed in my system, and I did not make those changes.
> > >
> > > #1 - When installing, I deliberately chose *not* to set a root password;
> > > since nobody else ever gets to touch my system, it is enough that my user
> > > password is granted root privileges when I use sudo or su.
> >
> > Always set a root password, even it's 123456789. Not all programs accept
> > root without password.
> 
> Yeah, I tried that, but I always end up with this same problem. When I tried 
> setting a root password before (because it always seemed like the *right* 
> answer), I got this same result. 
> 
> When I made the move from Kubuntu to Debian, I went through this root-password 
> thing at least 5 or 6 times. I always ended up with a system where I could 
> not be granted admin or root privileges ... EXCEPT in a sudo su shell! So 
> that's what I usually do: I create a sudo su shell, then exit and allow 
> permissions to expire, then when I need quick access again, I just hit my UP 
> arrow key, re-enter password, and go back into sudo su to kill something or 
> whatever else needs immediate attention. 
> 
> Now, it would be nice to crack this nut, once and for all, but I don't want to 
> keep asking my own machine for permission to do things. The question is, 
> which of us is master?

Hm. I'm quite sure I'm master on my systems, but that could be a delusion ...

What I have not understood yet: you can get root access from terminal with "su" or you have to use "sudo bash" ?



> 
> 
> >
> > > Anyway, so now, suddenly, I am asked for the root password in order to
> > > run gufw and other such stuff. But when I enter my password, I get a
> > > message that the password is incorrect. This happened before, long ago,
> > > when I first switched from (k)ubuntu to debian; debian seems to have a
> > > stricter default policy, which is probably a good thing, and I probably
> > > ought to get the hang of this thing, right?
> > >
> > > So I need an easier solution than whatever this is that I am doing (or
> > > not doing). I have been combing through my Linux pocket guide and Linux
> > > in a Nutshell and Linux Bible, etc., but they all say the same thing, and
> > > none of them work.
> > >
> > > #2 - I still want a graphical firewall that runs like the old
> > > Firestarter; gufw isn't quite what I want, or maybe I just haven't yet
> > > configured it properly.
> >
> > didn't know Firestarter, but it loks nice for a firewall. I have to admit I
> > don't like linux firewall (I prefer the BSD way). Anyway, I use "ufw" - it
> > has a nice GUI, depending on your text editor :)
> >
> > > What I want is not just a GUI, but instead, one that displays *active
> > > connections* as they appear and disappear, and allows changing rules on
> > > the fly. Is there such a thing?
> >
> > "fierwall-applet" could be what you want, but it drags in a hole bunch of
> > things.
> >
> Will check it out, thanks. 
> 
> > > Running it in a terminal would suit me just fine, so long as it is a
> > > dynamic display of active connections as they occur. Also an easier way
> > > to edit iptables. (I read that there is some new "thing" to replace
> > > iptables, meaning that ufw and gufw and their kin will all become
> > > obsolete very soon, apparently being phased out, and I had a hard time
> > > downloading them.)
> > >
> > > Another possible fix would be: to pass my firestarter rules (based on
> > > iptables) along to ufw/gufw.
> >
> > gufw? a gui for ufw? Abomoination!
> > That could definitly be done. Are you in for a bit of shell black magic?
> >
> 
> I am always prepared for some black magic. That is why I keep my *Linux in a 
> Nutshell* grimoire always close to hand. Oh, and salt, burning sulfur, 
> candles and incense, and some cats. 
> 
> I used to keep goats and chickens, but nowadays my landlord is always 
> complaining. 
> 
> Seriously, whatever you can recommend to get me back "in control" of the 
> Mother Ship. 
> 
> Thanks a bunch! 
> 
> > > But anyway, what I want is to see my active connections. (See enclosed
> > > screenshot.)
> > >
> > > Any help or comments or suggestions are appreciated. If not, at least a
> > > good joke.
> >
> > Windows guys suggest to run a firewall in amazon cloud and send all your
> > network through it. I still have not figured out if tis is a bad joke or
> > that they actully do, but I have the strong feeling this is a seriouse
> > advise (there are commertial offers for this kind of stuff).
> 
> It sounds like these kids forget everything about security, privacy, whenever 
> somebody says the word "cloud" -- then it's all okay. 
> 
> >
> > > Bill
> > >
> > > P.S. The worst insult is, just before my upgrade, I had got my Jessie
> > > system fine-tuned to near-perfection, and was feeling rather smug and
> > > virtually bulletproof. On the bright side: Beowulf/Buster does seem to
> > > run better, overall, except for when I can't get it to DO WHAT I WANT.
> > >
> > > :-\
> > >
> > > See screenshot for firewall example.
> 
> 
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