On Monday 31 August 2020 00:54:16 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > On 2020-08-30 20:26:35 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > > On Sunday 30 August 2020 17:36:37 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > On 2020-08-30 19:27:34 William Morder via trinity-users wrote: > > > > On Sunday 30 August 2020 17:19:08 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > > > On 2020-08-30 19:07:51 Sl�vek Banko wrote: > > > > > > On Monday 31 of August 2020 01:40:16 Felix Miata via tde-users > > wrote: > > > > > > > deloptes composed on 2020-08-31 01:01 (UTC+0200): > > > > > > > > Felix Miata wrote: > > > > > > > >> Does TDE have an app made for this purpose? If yes, what's > > > > > > > >> it called. If not, suggest something please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Isn't konqueror working for you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > AFAIK Android also uses MTP. > > > > > > > > I just found out recently (for a second time) that I need > > > > > > > > udisks2. Konqueror does the rest assuming you have the tdeio > > > > > > > > plugins and the permissions. > > > > > > > > My phone is not exactly android, but MTP is MTP. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Konq's media doesn't show it. Konq says protocol not supported > > > > > > > if I type in mtp:/ or mtp:///. If mtp://, it lists / content. > > > > > > > No kind of popup announces phone's been connected, even though > > > > > > > kernel certainly noticed: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # rpm -qa | egrep -i 'udisk|tdeb|eio' | sort > > > > > > > libudisks2-0-2.6.5-lp151.3.3.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-bin-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-data-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-libtqt3-integration-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-runtime-data-common-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-tdeio-pim-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-tdeio-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebase-tdeio-smb-plugin-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebindings-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdebindings-java-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdemultimedia-tdeio-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > trinity-tdepim-tdeio-plugins-14.0.8-1.oss151.x86_64 > > > > > > > udisks2-2.6.5-lp151.3.3.x86_64 > > > > > > > # dmesg tail > > > > > > > [ 16.257759] sky2 0000:05:00.0 eth0: enabling interface > > > > > > > [ 220.180082] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB device number 2 > > > > > > > using uhci_hcd [ 220.320054] usb 3-2: device descriptor > > > > > > > read/64, error -71 [ 220.564091] usb 3-2: device descriptor > > > > > > > read/64, error -71 [ 221.008081] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB > > > > > > > device number 3 using uhci_hcd [ 221.144082] usb 3-2: device > > > > > > > descriptor read/64, error -71 [ 221.388055] usb 3-2: device > > > > > > > descriptor read/64, error -71 [ 221.496101] usb usb3-port2: > > > > > > > attempt power cycle > > > > > > > [ 221.940075] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB device number 4 > > > > > > > using uhci_hcd [ 222.356061] usb 3-2: device not accepting > > > > > > > address 4, error -71 [ 222.484064] usb 3-2: new full-speed USB > > > > > > > device number 5 using uhci_hcd [ 222.900051] usb 3-2: device > > > > > > > not accepting address 5, error -71 [ 222.900086] usb > > > > > > > usb3-port2: unable to enumerate USB device [ 294.379489] > > > > > > > FS-Cache: Loaded [ 294.408171] RPC: Registered named UNIX > > > > > > > socket transport module. [ 294.408174] RPC: Registered udp > > > > > > > transport module. [ 294.408175] RPC: Registered tcp transport > > > > > > > module. > > > > > > > [ 294.408175] RPC: Registered tcp NFSv4.1 backchannel > > > > > > > transport module. [ 294.441320] FS-Cache: Netfs 'nfs' > > > > > > > registered for caching [ 294.452516] Key type dns_resolver > > > > > > > registered [ 294.484410] NFS: Registering the id_resolver key > > > > > > > type [ 294.484422] Key type id_resolver registered > > > > > > > [ 294.484423] Key type id_legacy registered > > > > > > > [ 322.793093] sky2 0000:05:00.0 eth0: Link is up at 1000 Mbps, > > > > > > > full duplex, flow control both > > > > > > > [ 323.000756] NET: Registered protocol family 17 > > > > > > > # > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > some time ago I looked that for newer phones that probably prefer > > > > > > MPT transfers instead of traditional usb-storage, we will > > > > > > probably need to port something like this to TDE - tdeio-slave: > > > > > > > > > > > > https://github.com/KDE/kio-mtp > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > Hmmm... My relatively elderly Samsung SM-920A worked automagically > > > > > after I plugged it in via USB; the phone asked me if I wanted to > > > > > allow data sharing via MTP, and when I poked Allow the media > > > > > manager appeared on my desktop, showing 'Unknown device 1-12:1.0, > > > > > Medium type: Camera, with choices of Open in new window, digiKam > > > > > Detect and Download, or Do Nothing. > > > > > > > > > > Leslie > > > > > > > > Yup, older phones worked just by plugging in to USB; it was as easy > > > > as using a flash drive. The newer phones have gone to this MTP > > > > protocol. > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > But as I said, my old phone Does use the MTP protocol, and it shows up > > > in the Removable Media manager. > > > > > > Leslie > > > > Yes, I was saying this more for the benefit of others. Don't waste your > > time trying to get the newer phones to work like that, because things > > have changed. Now we need to use other methods or protocols to get there. > > > > I had an old Samsung Android that I used for work, a few years ago. (I > > forget the exact model now, as it wasn't mine to keep, and I used it only > > for work.) But I just plugged it in, and presto! > > > > So when I got a slightly newer phone (Samsung Galaxy On5 S550TL), I > > imagined, wrongly, that I would be able to do the same, but it is not so. > > Only by accident did I discover that MATE's Caja file manager seems to > > recognize the MTP protocol. As for your phone, I don't know: is it > > rooted? > > > > Bill > > It is not. > If I understand you correctly, MTP works for older phones but not newer > ones? I had the impression from reading this thread that MTP was something > new; now I'm confused. :-) > > Leslie > I cannot say authoritatively whether MTP is "new" or "old"; what I do know is that I never saw that protocol with my old phone. I could just connect my phone to computer using a USB plug, and it worked just like a flash drive. When I got a newer phone, it didn't work, and that's when I heard about MTP, so I assume that it is newer. Maybe it was always around, for as long as smartphones, but I didn't notice because it just worked. Regardless, whether MTP is a recent development or not, something has been fundamentally changed, so we must find different ways to get there. Bill