On Tuesday 01 September 2020 08:22:44 E. Liddell wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Sep 2020 05:20:27 -0700
>
> "William Morder via trinity-users" 
<trinity-users@...> wrote:
> > So the only answer I get is that I must install systemd in order to run
> > tdenetworkmanager? I've already tried some command-line voodoo to force
> > installation, ignore held packages, all that good stuff.
>
> As a last resort, compile networkmanager yourself?  systemd appears to be
> a strictly optional dependency (for some optional functionality, you need
> one of systemd, elogind, or consolekit).
>
> E. Liddell
>

I just experimented with Slavek's PSB and PTB repos, but I get the same 
results, no matter what. 

If all else fails, I could probably use dpkg to force-install an older/newer 
version of the package (from stretch or bullseye?), just to see if I can make 
it work. It would probably work as a standalone package without systemd if I 
used the stretch version (just a hunch, based on past experience); I've done 
this with a few problematic items, and they often run just fine, but then 
when I try to install something else or upgrade, the system wants to remove 
them. 

As I am still new to beowulf/buster, I am trying to play nice, follow the 
rules, and avoid anything too weird. Once I know it better, I'll find a way 
to make it do what I want. 

Maybe Slavek will get drawn into this discussion. I feel sure that he gets the 
no-systemd crowd. 

Bill