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Re: Re: [trinity-users] gmail and pop - with P.S.

From: "BorgLabs - Kate Draven" <borglabs4@...>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 10:14:17 -0400
> I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual copy sent to 
> myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world. 
> 
> And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping 
> panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper 
> place. 
> 
> On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote:
> > Three things:
> >
> > 1. Like others have already said, you need to enable access by unsafe apps
> > in Gmail account settings. See [1].
> >
> > 2. In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 username with
> > "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in KMail 
settings
> > my username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@..." (again, without
> > quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case you
> > have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the "recent:"
> > prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they come in, I would
> > only see email in a batch every few hours.
> >
> Here is what I originally wrote: 
> 
> Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some, but 
it's 
> news to me, and I never found anything like that among suggestions in 
Gmail's 
> pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to for Gmail. (Doesn't 
work 
> on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a try.) At least I managed 
to 
> clear all the old emails off the server. 
> 
> > 3. Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by logining
> > in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes I'll be
> > checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm checking it 
from
> > Canada. I have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases.
> >
> Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe 
shifty?]* 
> pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I have moved from my home 
to 
> the library, 15 minutes' walk from here. 
> 
> > Janek
> >
> > [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en
> > [2] https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en
> 
> Thanks for the tip! 
> 
> Bill
> 
> P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above], 
> suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then again 
> this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my eth0, as 
> well, wasn't recognized! How can that be? 
> 
> I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain, but 
it's 
> much quicker now than it was when running Jessie); during setup nothing in 
my 
> network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I tried some rescue discs 
> and other such tools; again, nothing happening. 
> 
> The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to check 
> email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would 
> deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections? 
> 
> Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!!
> 
> At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi antenna 
for 
> a desktop computer, but I built this system out of parts.) As it turns out, 
> somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is odd, because 
> I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot happen. I can 
> only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when moving round the stand 
> that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to pull it loose. 
> 
> Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the 
cause 
> of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or stupidity can explain it. 
> 
> P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated, lazy] 
> or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no fixed abode, 
> etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or shiftless, or should 
one 
> avoid this word altogether? 
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
Bill

You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer.
Science, dear boy, science.
Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation.

Kate