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Re: [trinity-users] gmail and pop - with P.S.

From: "William Morder via trinity-users" <trinity-users@...>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2020 07:20:57 -0700

On Thursday 03 September 2020 07:14:17 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote:
> > I sent this email earlier, but since I didn't receive my usual copy sent
> > to myself, it seemed that it never made it to the outside world.
> >
> > And then there was a mildy amusing incident, and a few hours of creeping
> > panic, but I don't want to spoil the story, so I save it for its proper
> > place.
> >
> > On Wednesday 02 September 2020 13:35:32 Janek Stolarek wrote:
> > > Three things:
> > >
> > > 1. Like others have already said, you need to enable access by unsafe
> > > apps in Gmail account settings. See [1].
> > >
> > > 2. In KMail POP3 settings you might need to prefix you POP3 username
> > > with "recent:" (without quotes but with colon), so for example in KMail
>
> settings
>
> > > my username is entered as "recent:jwstolarek@..." (again, without
> > > quotes). This enables checking email by multiple mail clients (in case
> > > you have several machines). See [2]. Moreover, for me without the
> > > "recent:" prefix, instead of having access to newest emails as they
> > > come in, I would only see email in a batch every few hours.
> >
> > Here is what I originally wrote:
> >
> > Whoa! That is one cool trick! It might be general knowledge for some, but
>
> it's
>
> > news to me, and I never found anything like that among suggestions in
>
> Gmail's
>
> > pages, nor on other sites who offer advice on how to for Gmail. (Doesn't
>
> work
>
> > on Zoho mail, however; just thought I'd give it a try.) At least I
> > managed
>
> to
>
> > clear all the old emails off the server.
> >
> > > 3. Contrary to what other said, I rarely have problems caused by
> > > logining in from different locations. I regularly use VPN so sometimes
> > > I'll be checking my email from Switzerland and 5 minutes later I'm
> > > checking it
>
> from
>
> > > Canada. I have no problems in overwhelming majority of cases.
> >
> > Yeah, I was beginning to feel like some kind of shiftless [or maybe
>
> shifty?]*
>
> > pariah, banned from Google periodically, because I have moved from my
> > home
>
> to
>
> > the library, 15 minutes' walk from here.
> >
> > > Janek
> > >
> > > [1] https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en
> > > [2] https://support.google.com/a/answer/6089246?hl=en
> >
> > Thanks for the tip!
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > P.S. After I implemented this change in my Gmail accounts [see above],
> > suddenly my wifi was disabled. I spent a few hours last night, then again
> > this morning, trying in vain to get it back. Then it seemed that my eth0,
> > as well, wasn't recognized! How can that be?
> >
> > I even started the process of reinstalling my Devuan Beowulf (a pain, but
>
> it's
>
> > much quicker now than it was when running Jessie); during setup nothing
> > in
>
> my
>
> > network was recognized! Hardware failure?!?! Then I tried some rescue
> > discs and other such tools; again, nothing happening.
> >
> > The only thing I had done was to change that line in Gmail, then to check
> > email. Could Google really be such a Big Brother gangsta that they would
> > deliberately destroy my wireless and ethernet connections?
> >
> > Those jive %@! >?$#~!!!!
> >
> > At last I check my wifi antenna. (I know, it's weird to use a wifi
> > antenna
>
> for
>
> > a desktop computer, but I built this system out of parts.) As it turns
> > out, somehow the USB got unplugged from the antenna itself, which is odd,
> > because I actually have it clamped in place, to make sure that cannot
> > happen. I can only imagine that I must have stepped on a wire when moving
> > round the stand that holds my printer; maybe just enough pressure to pull
> > it loose.
> >
> > Well, so the moral of this story is, never let your paranoia decide the
>
> cause
>
> > of bad experiences, when your own clumsiness or stupidity can explain it.
> >
> > P.P.S. *It occurs to me that whether one is "shiftless" [unmotivated,
> > lazy] or "shifty" [nervous, acting guilty, moving round too much, no
> > fixed abode, etc.], both are bad. So is it better to be shifty or
> > shiftless, or should
>
> one
>
> > avoid this word altogether?
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Bill
>
> You clearly missed the obvious conclusion and, likely, the correct answer.
> Science, dear boy, science.
> Gnomes, trolls and germlins. Clearly you have an infestation.
>
> Kate
>

No, that seems unlikely, as I always leave out food and drink for the blessed 
folk, and we have always had a very reciprocal relationship. 

I prefer to believe that the Men in Black are after me. That seems a more 
plausible explanation. 

Bill