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[trinity-users] Re: [users] systemd-homed - new thread

From: William Morder via tde-users <ml-migration-agent@...>
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2020 06:25:29 -0700

On Tuesday 15 September 2020 06:14:23 you wrote:
> On 2020-09-15 07:40:58 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > On Monday 14 September 2020 10:44:39 BorgLabs - Kate Draven via tde-users
> >
> > wrote:
> > > On Monday 14 September 2020, William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> > > > >From Nik's previous post: https://linuxreviews.org/Systemd-homed
> > > >
> > > > This systemd crap is already bad enough, but homed will eventually
> > > > work its way into other stuff beyond systemd, and then will become
> > > > hard to avoid.
> > > >
> > > > It *sounds* good, being able to move home directories from one
> > > > machine to another without so much fuss; but I already do that,
> > > > pretty much, with only a little fuss.
> > > >
> > > > My suspicion is that somebody's mother is now trying to impose
> > > > conformity on everybody, not just myself, to do our thinking for us;
> > > > because, of course, it is for our own good.
> > > >
> > > > They are trying to get rid of a headache by giving us nightmares
> > > > instead.
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Note that I alone am sticking to the discipline of creating a
> > > > completely new thread.
> > >
> > > I don't understand why this is even needed?! I can already move home
> > > directories without a problem. Been doing it for years. I just make
> > > sure to use the same user on the same distro, same etc. Works
> > > perfectly. Or I save key settings (konq bookmarks, FF bms, etc) it's so
> > > easy after that to just retheme to spec.
> > >
> > > There's something suspcious about systemd, especially the way they are
> > > pushing it on everyone. Whatever happened to freedom on free software?
> > >
> > > Kate
> >
> > Better not to give in to conspiracy-theory thinking here. I believe a
> > simpler proportion is at work.
> >
> > The more money, property or power is involved, the greater the degree of
> > corruption. Who was it that said it? Lord Acton? "Power corrupts.
> > Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
> >
> > Corruption creeps in by small degrees. It starts with somebody offering
> > front-row seats at some special, exclusive event, or just being given
> > "free money" or other unearned bonuses and perks.
> >
> > In all this technophobic conspiracy thinking, there is a simpler
> > principle at work. People who are in business want to know who are their
> > customers. (It makes more sense in a small business, where we meet in
> > person.) When we move into situations where the people in business never
> > actually meet most of their customers, they must find other ways to get
> > to "know" them. At first, I'm sure, they mean well, and only want to
> > serve the needs and wants of people who buy or use their goods and
> > services; but as the company and customer base grows, and as competition
> > also increases, then comes the need for greater control.
> >
> > And now, we the users are not even really exactly "customers" or
> > "clients", but just use what we get for free; and because it's free, of
> > course, we are taught that we should not complain or make demands, but
> > just be grateful.
> >
> > In the end, we, the customers, users, renters (whatever our situation)
> > become the least important part; in fact, an obstacle to doing business.
> > What the business person would prefer, really, is just to withdraw money
> > directly from our accounts, without any interaction from ourselves. But
> > this is only because doing business in person is becoming a rare occasion
> > any more.
> >
> > Bill
>
> 	Actually, as has been pointed out by many people, to these businesses we
> are no longer so much customers (to be sold products to) as products
> ourselves, whose data can be sold to other companies.
>
> Leslie

Also true. 

Bill
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