Am 31.10.2010 22:53, schrieb Jimmy Johnson: > Bernd Müffeler wrote: >> Am 31.10.2010 06:57, schrieb Jimmy Johnson: >>> Bernd Müffeler wrote: >>>> Am 30.10.2010 01:09, schrieb Jimmy Johnson: >>>>> David Hare wrote: >>>>>> I have tested various workarounds for getting GUI stuff as root >>>>>> (without enabling sudo) for the past week. Some Debian users are >>>>>> not >>>>>> comfortable with sudo at all (especially if configured for root >>>>>> access >>>>>> without password) and prefer the root password to be required for >>>>>> administration. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have now settled on a workable solution with Trinity. >>>>>> >>>>>> Using: >>>>>> >>>>>> kdesu <kdeapp> --nonewdcop >>>>>> >>>>>> with the configs I posted earlier has not failed once. (must create >>>>>> file kdesurc and purge kdesudo-trinity) >>>>>> >>>>>> It seems the user's dcop and/or klauncher crashes if/when root >>>>>> gets a >>>>>> new dcop. I don't know why, when I used sudo initially, that did not >>>>>> happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> I edited the menu with a new "root apps" section (konq, kwrite, >>>>>> kuser) >>>>>> configured like that, with "run as different user" unchecked so can >>>>>> now use terminal, run box or menu. >>>>>> >>>>>> Non-trinity, gtk apps (synaptic, gparted, zenity) I had problems >>>>>> with >>>>>> before seem fixed by adding to ~/.bashrc: >>>>>> >>>>>> export XAUTHORITY=$HOME/.Xauthority >>>>>> >>>>>> Needed reboot (or relogin) to register that. Don't know if that has >>>>>> security issues but it works. >>>>>> >>>>>> I can now open, error-free, as root from terminal or via custom >>>>>> script with: >>>>>> >>>>>> dbus-launch <gtk-app> >>>>>> >>>>>> That will not work for trinity apps. >>>>>> >>>>>> sux gives the same problem as kdesu without --nonewdcop; can't use >>>>>> that (for Trinity apps) now but never mind >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I now have a recipe too, of course I have only tested this with >>>>> Squeeze and have been using it since yesterday and it seems to >>>>> work perfect. >>>>> >>>>> Using synaptic Install: >>>>> >>>>> gksu >>>>> gksu-polkit >>>>> sudo >>>>> >>>>> And completely Remove: >>>>> >>>>> kdesudo >>>>> kdesudo-trinity >>>>> sudo-trinity >>>>> >>>>> As "User" run 'gksu-properties' and change "su" to "sudo" and you >>>>> will always be prompted for a password when you need elevated >>>>> privileges. >>>>> >>>> At first it was a good idea. But there is no packet gksu-polkit in >>>> Debian Lenny. >>> >>> No, but 'gksu-properties' still works, just not as expected. >>> >>> >>>> And when you will remove sudo-trinity he will remove also a many >>>> packets from trinity. >>> >>> Installing sudo will remove sudo-trinity, but things in Lenny are >>> not working as expected. >>> >>> >>>> So you have no change with this workaround under Debian Lenny, sorry. >>>> Best wishes >>>> bernd >>> >>> >>> I just now installed Lenny with trinity and I will see what I can >>> do, right now nothing is working as expected. :-( >>> >> Thanks for the answer, I hope you will find a solution. >> I love the trinity project and I will work with this KDE. >> Best wishes >> bernd > > > Sorry I got your hopes up, but I deleted trinity on Lenny last night, > it should just work but it don't and it's to easy to install KDE > 3.5.10 to try and fix trinity. I think it's a lot more important to > have trinity working on Squeeze anyways. > > Regards, > Sorry for the late answer. I cant work with trinity on Squeeze. I have many problems with my hardware on Squeeze. Ok I work with trinity on Lenny with the end for Lenny, and when I work as root I went to console and work with the midnightcommander. KDE 4 is no way for me and so I work with trinity. also thanks for your help and best wishes bernd