On Saturday 24 December 2011 20:33:31 Lisi wrote: > Could it get any worse?? Yes, it could. > :-( I have just decided that as I can't have Trinity on a fresh install > : for > > the moment, I should look at KDE 4. After all, perhaps I shouldn't condemn > something out of hand and permanently. Fortunately it is in a VM and > easily removeable. I shall just get rid of the whole VM and start again. > It is GHASTLY. Far worse than I remembered. So, pending the reopening of > the mirrors, I shall have a look at Lubuntu. Linux Mint is worth a look. I have Mint 11 Debian Edition in a VM, as my work environment. While I miss some of the KDE3 features, it's a very usable GNOME 2 environment. Mint 12 is Ubuntu based, but without Unity. it has 3 main options, GNOME 3 with MGSE (Mint Gnome Shell Extensions), regular GNOME 3 and MATE. MGSE is supposed to give it a similar feel to the old GNOME 2 and MATE is a continuing GNOME 2 development (Trinity for Gnome?). I have had a quick look at Mint 12 and it seems nice, but I haven't done more than kick the tyres. HTH Neil Youngman