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Month: July 2012

Re: [trinity-users] is there a version of trinity that actually works

From: David Hare <davidahare@...>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 16:43:29 +0000
On 03/07/12 08:21, Lisi wrote:
> Hi, Slávek!
> Please scrap the email I inadvertently sent to you off-list last night.
> On Friday 29 June 2012 11:13:37 Slávek Banko wrote:
>> Dne pá 29. června 2012 Lisi napsal(a):
>>> Well, there are certainly working versions.  I can only speak for
>>> Debian, but on Debian 6.x (Squeeze) TDE 3.5.12 runs perfectly, so far
>>> without a problem. With 3.5.13 the situation is not quite as good, but,
>>> with the addition of Slavek's repositories, runs acceptably, tho' I
>>> have hit a couple of small irritating problems, which could be bugs.  I
>>> shall be bringing them to this list for help.

My Debian experience with 3.5.13+axis updates is extremely good, much 
better than 3.5.12

Here the major irritations are metapackages and recommends when 
installing. I spent a lot of time working out how to exclude (for me) 
unwanted stuff: kdeaccessibility, kmail, kdesudo, sudo-trinity, 
kgtk-qt3-trinity, kdegames, kdetoys, kdeadmin, kdenetwork, kpackage 
.....  Some are on the bug list and can affect the entire system.

I certainly don't want networking nor system admin tasks dependent on any DE

For example, why are kdesudo-trinity and kpackage-trinity  "recommends" 
of kaffeine-trinity? This is in the bug list.

With the bloat (probably also numerous buggy packages) out, TDE is still 
found here to be the most functional DE available.

Any needed package can be installed individually. For the user-essential 
ones with unresolved bugs there is almost always a gtk alternative.

The core system DE is what really matters, that is already mostly good 
in Debian. I have TDE 3.5.13+axis on squeeze, wheezy and sid.

How can anyone even hope to keep up with distros that hack packages from 
Debian Unstable and release on a tight schedule, having themselves a 
reputation for bugginess?

I would be happy to see "kde-trinity" removed as the official install 
method, maybe replaced with some more modular metas. Bloat always was an 
issue when kde3x was "mainstream"