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Re: [trinity-users] Where is my Star Trek? was Re: [trinity-users] [sort of OT] Trinity etc. are damaging Linux

From: Dexter Filmore <Dexter.Filmore@...>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 15:37:02 +0200
Am Sunday 29 July 2012 06:03:41 schrieb Brad Alexander:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Dexter Filmore <Dexter.Filmore@...> 
> > Well, I've been telling for years now that we were better off with one
> > desktop that has the flexibility to adapt to everyone's needs.
> > Be lightweight without graphical mumbo jumbo if desired, be all the
> > visual monster with tons of effects, be as simple as a task bar and
> > systray, be a full blown cornucopia of gadgets if somebody prefer that.
> > Make it configurable from simply to rocket science, from 486 to i7 but
> > have ONE API. Offer developers a safe base.
> Dexter,
> This is the thing that the competitors (e.g. Mac, Windows) have done,
> or at least tried to do. I have my own workflow, and am not going to
> change it just because someone thinks I should. For Mac and Windows,
> they are telling me that I have to do task X in this way and that is
> the only way I can do it. If I decide to color outside the lines, then
> that is not allowed.

Win/OSX = binary, Cathedral style. Does not make a good base for comparison 
> I think that's why many of us have gravitated to Linux. Because of the
> freedom to compute in a way that is comfortable for us. Gnome and KDE
> have completely different paradigms for how they operate, and I think
> that trying to force them into a single box is wrong of you.

If the box is big enough for both?

> Not to put too fine a point on it, find a way to compute that works
> for you and go with it. But don't try to dictate to everyone else that
> they have to compute in the same way. And don't try to tell the
> developers, who are doing this in their free time as a labor of love
> that they are doing it wrong. 

I don't. I say there should be a standard. And from a certain level on there 
We agreed on how to address mem, how to address hdd sectors, we agreed on byte 
order (mostly, this is where the exceptions start but at least all cases are 
And I've been in the OSS game since last century now and have my part in 
growing the community, if I don't get to complain I don't see why I should 

> If the "there is only one way to do it" 
> paradigm is what fits you, go back to Windows or Mac.

MS/Apple don't listen to me at all. There is no dialog. I don't say I the OSS 
community is not for me, I say there are more possibilities and there could 
be more archievement than there is.

> I've heard similar debates about how there are too many distros. That
> we should force all of the distro devs to work on one big unified
> distro. So which would it be? RedHat? They are king in the corporate
> space. Debian? They have a couple of hundred distros in their progeny.
> What about all the specialist distros like Backtrack for
> security/pentesting? Or should we stop OpenMediaVault? What about DBAN
> or Parted Magic or system rescue cd?  And who would make this
> decision? I tend to run Debian on the desktop, but have about a dozen
> specialist distros on cd or thumb drive.

I never said anything about distros. While I see that BSD has a different 
standard, just mentioning as you bring it up.

> So, variety being the spice of life, and since you cannot dictate what
> we do with our free time, if we want to contribute to one or more
> projects, then I think the best you can do is just say thank you.

Since others gave me the "dictate" thing I assume I conveyed my intention 
wrong somewhere. 
I wanted to weigh an idea, I'm not telling anyone what to do with their time.
Unless I payed, of course...