Really this su/sudo subject needs it's own thread, it's important but off-topic of the poll. Sudo is OK for those who want/need/choose it. However a default to sudo is one issue that will surely alienate many Debian users considering Trinity, especially if it's a problem to change. This needs to be sorted in a way that users can easily choose. Some here may not remember or not have been around when I raised this before. It's in the October archives. My problem was, no Trinity stuff worked without sudo. Klauncher crashed with "normal" kdesu. I couldn't get a root text editor, konq, kcontrol...... Anyway I found my own fix and posted it there. I had to purge kdesudo and change the menus. It might not be a clean fix or I might have missed something. I actually don't remember what happened about sudo-trinity, I thought it was replaced by Debian's but I now see an rc config is still there. Maybe it was something in sudo-trinity, I never discovered for sure. I seemed the only one with that issue.